Old Blues in New Frames

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Old Blues in New Frames

Post by syncretism » Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:26 pm

I know some people here are using old modules in the same frames and new modules. Have any of you had luck doing so with these?

PRC2: https://www.modulargrid.net/f/bugbrand-prc2
PRC2b: https://www.modulargrid.net/f/bugbrand-prc2b
Env-1 (any revision): https://www.modulargrid.net/f/bugbrand-env1
PRC5: https://www.bugbrand.co.uk/index.php?ma ... 46e5d7560b
UTL5: https://www.bugbrand.co.uk/index.php?ma ... 46e5d7560b

For some reason, I thought there was a slew/lag processor among the old BugBrand modules, but perhaps I'm remembering that wrong.

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Re: Old Blues in New Frames

Post by lud » Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:44 pm

Pretty sure @chrisdermo has!
Have you hit the mother lode?!

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Re: Old Blues in New Frames

Post by syncretism » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:08 pm

lud wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:44 pm
Pretty sure @chrisdermo has!
Have you hit the mother lode?!
Not at all; just wondering what I can ask for!

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Re: Old Blues in New Frames

Post by chrisdermo » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:54 pm

I use all of those in the new frames. But! I have never used them in the old so whether they behave differently or not is another question.... and Tom does not recommend using them that way around at all.
exception is the PRC2B which I don’t have, but is right at the top of my want list, haven’t ever seen one go for sale anywhere!
WTB / WTTF: Bugbrand PRC2B, DD3, PRC4, ENV1

Current Bugs frame:
https://www.modulargrid.net/f/racks/view/580413

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Re: Old Blues in New Frames

Post by BugBrand » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:02 am

Old blues will work in new frames IF THEY PHYSICALLY FIT but they might not work optimally - I have not tried everything (nor will I!) and stick with the clear message of use old frames for old blues and new frames for new designs.

You might not notice anything with more control focused designs but precision designs such as VCOs you will - old ones didn't tend to have voltage references, for example.

I also personally wish for old systems to be kept together for what they are. I am slowly working towards updating old designs so that the current range covers & exceeds the old, while also tying in circuit level improvements.

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Re: Old Blues in New Frames

Post by T. Jervell » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:05 am

BugBrand wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:02 am
I am slowly working towards updating old designs so that the current range covers & exceeds the old, while also tying in circuit level improvements.
This makes me happy😊

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Re: Old Blues in New Frames

Post by chrisdermo » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:12 am

BugBrand wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:02 am
I am slowly working towards updating old designs so that the current range covers & exceeds the old, while also tying in circuit level improvements.
S/H & ring mod poke :poke: :mrgreen:

I saw in instagram Palle has been testing the new matrix - looks awesome!
WTB / WTTF: Bugbrand PRC2B, DD3, PRC4, ENV1

Current Bugs frame:
https://www.modulargrid.net/f/racks/view/580413

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Re: Old Blues in New Frames

Post by chrisdermo » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:19 am

syncretism wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:26 pm
I know some people here are using old modules in the same frames and new modules. Have any of you had luck doing so with these?

PRC2: https://www.modulargrid.net/f/bugbrand-prc2
PRC2b: https://www.modulargrid.net/f/bugbrand-prc2b
Env-1 (any revision): https://www.modulargrid.net/f/bugbrand-env1
PRC5: https://www.bugbrand.co.uk/index.php?ma ... 46e5d7560b
UTL5: https://www.bugbrand.co.uk/index.php?ma ... 46e5d7560b

For some reason, I thought there was a slew/lag processor among the old BugBrand modules, but perhaps I'm remembering that wrong.
I would also note that I find the newer dual envelope modules to have a much better response to CV control of the attack and decay than the old ENV1 I have. And generally speaking, the newer versions of things like filters, oscillators and even the LPGs are much more pleasing to the ear IMHO and to control/play than the older ones. They really do feel like a much more refined and sophisticated system to me.
WTB / WTTF: Bugbrand PRC2B, DD3, PRC4, ENV1

Current Bugs frame:
https://www.modulargrid.net/f/racks/view/580413

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