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ST UF FLI N EAR
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The TS is your synths I.D. Monster !  |
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deastman
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I forgot to follow up on this thread with a better description of the sequencer patch I use. I thought I'd described it here before, but perhaps it was only on the Yahoo group. Anyway...
The basic idea is to use a CV from a sequencer (A-155 in my case) to control what part of the buffer is being played. Take a CV out of the sequencer, mult it, and send it to the CV in for both the loop Start and End of the TS. Set the Start of the buffer all the way counterclockwise, and the End just a little bit further in. That way, you get a short looping bit of audio, but the sequencer row controls which part of the buffer is being looped.
This basically turns the Tyme Sefari into a beat slicer. You can of course use other sequencer CVs and gates to control the other parameters. I like using a gate row of the sequencer to control the record function. That way, I can quickly "punch in" a new bit of audio on a given step, and then disable the record gate again to keep what I've recorded at that step.
As another variation on that theme, I feed external audio (guitar, for example) through an A-119 External Input into the Tyme Sefari. I use the Gate Out of the A-119 to control the Record function of the TS. That way, whenever I pluck a note on the guitar, it punches in to record automatically, and then stops again when the level drops. This works very well when combined with the sequencer patch described above. |
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ST UF FLI N EAR
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:41 am Post subject: |
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wow nice one! 
How about using the sequencer-gates into the Playinput?
That way you can really build and combine the several slices and mangle them up, without looping on a fast pace constantly.
Too bad i sold my TS, oh well. |
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johnnymad
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| deastman wrote: | | As another variation on that theme, I feed external audio (guitar, for example) through an A-119 External Input into the Tyme Sefari. I use the Gate Out of the A-119 to control the Record function of the TS. That way, whenever I pluck a note on the guitar, it punches in to record automatically, and then stops again when the level drops. This works very well when combined with the sequencer patch described above. |
that's a really cool idea. i'll have to check that one out.
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falafelbiels
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I think I'm getting the hang of it.
I had a sequencer (my lessonquencer) run it funnily indeed, the TS recording the output of an MPC playing varying percussion patterns on certain steps, and me determining which steps would be the ones recording by changing the reset point of the sequencer. get it? I don't know if I really do.
Does the buffer record independently of the loop controls I wonder? remains a weird module. Liking it a lot though. |
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ST UF FLI N EAR
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I dont think the buffer records fully with the loopswitch on and end and startingpoint moved. I remember when i used it after power up and recorded in a smaller window, when lenghtening the loop the empty buffernoise would appair before getting filled. |
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dkcg
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| falafelbiels wrote: | | Does the buffer record independently of the loop controls I wonder? remains a weird module. Liking it a lot though. |
I was wondering that too.
Gonna try sequencing the start/end points with the Oberkorn tonight.  |
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adamf
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Location: Ya know. Melbourne Orstralia mate! Where people play footy with VB cans and have sex with utes.
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| ST UF FLI N EAR wrote: |
i didnt have high expectations, i know 8bit is 8bit.
i just dont like the frequency and loudness of the added hiss.
that i didnt expect.
could anyone respond to my prior post? |
I have recently had problems with a noisy TS. There is a particular module that I have in my setup that I know causes a lot of cross talk and noise in certain other modules (the module in question is made by another company and shall remain nameless as I quite like it and do not want to create any bad feelings...). Anyway it was running off the same power supply as the TS. As soon as I moved the culprit to a separate power supply, the noise at the TS output was gone. (When I say noise, I mean a kind of loud digital hash/hiss/hum that is present even when there is no audio running through the module and feed back is set to zero). I get a similar noise at the ouput of my Malgorithm when the same offending module is on the Malgorithm power supply. When its not, the Malgorithm output is fairly quiet (with no input audio present). The module that I'm refering to also causes intermodulation/noise/crosstalk issues when on the same supply as VCOs (ie: the VCOs begin to sound horrible/noisey/fuzzy). So, if you are experiencing these sort of issues with the TS, perhaps try it on an independant power supply and then gradually add other modules to the same supply. If you begin to notice noise issues, remove the last added module and see if it disappears. |
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falafelbiels
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| Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:22 am Post subject: |
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ST UF F has his TS on another power suply already. it seems to help  |
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ST UF FLI N EAR
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| Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Yes haha. On yours.  |
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NV
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| Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| adamf wrote: |
I have recently had problems with a noisy TS. There is a particular module that I have in my setup that I know causes a lot of cross talk and noise in certain other modules (the module in question is made by another company and shall remain nameless as I quite like it and do not want to create any bad feelings...). Anyway it was running off the same power supply as the TS. As soon as I moved the culprit to a separate power supply, the noise at the TS output was gone. (When I say noise, I mean a kind of loud digital hash/hiss/hum that is present even when there is no audio running through the module and feed back is set to zero). I get a similar noise at the ouput of my Malgorithm when the same offending module is on the Malgorithm power supply. When its not, the Malgorithm output is fairly quiet (with no input audio present). The module that I'm refering to also causes intermodulation/noise/crosstalk issues when on the same supply as VCOs (ie: the VCOs begin to sound horrible/noisey/fuzzy). So, if you are experiencing these sort of issues with the TS, perhaps try it on an independant power supply and then gradually add other modules to the same supply. If you begin to notice noise issues, remove the last added module and see if it disappears. |
Any chance of letting us know which modules it was? I understand not wanting to badmouth and whatever, but I imagine you could save a number of people an enormous amount of time and hassle with that information.
I'll come right out and say that I love my Livewire AFG and Frequensteiner, but they both have tendencies to introduce crosstalk issues within certain modular systems. Even so that hasn't affected sales as they are stunning modules regardless and I'd still have them even if they caught on fire once a week. |
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dkcg
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I could have sworn I read somewhere a long time ago that having 5v is a good thing. I wonder if that could also explain some noise. I have mine in an ASys case right now, so it's getting 5v in addition to the normal power.
Anyone else using 5v with theirs? I used to have mine in a Doepfer case, and maybe it's just my mind playing games, but I could swear it sounds cleaner in the ASys case. |
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falafelbiels
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| Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Mine happens to be on 5v, but together with an A-191. I don't think it takes any, it would have been (something to be) mentioned wouldn't it? |
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NV
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| I think the Tyme Sefari has jumpers on the PCB that allow you to select whether the 5v is regulated from the +12v or if it's taken directly from the 5v rail. I know that some other 5v regulated modules have that capability. It would be interesting to see if that makes any difference as far as the noise some people have been experiencing. |
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falafelbiels
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| Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:36 am Post subject: |
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One would expect Governor Blacksnake to step in to do some schooling at some point eh?  |
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deastman
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| Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:34 am Post subject: |
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| dkcg wrote: | | falafelbiels wrote: | | Does the buffer record independently of the loop controls I wonder? remains a weird module. Liking it a lot though. |
I was wondering that too.
Gonna try sequencing the start/end points with the Oberkorn tonight. |
If I understand the question correctly, switching into record mode records at the current "playhead" position. So if you are looping a small section of the buffer, that is the only part which will get recorded into... again and again, until you switch out of record. |
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falafelbiels
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| deastman wrote: | | If I understand the question correctly, switching into record mode records at the current "playhead" position. So if you are looping a small section of the buffer, that is the only part which will get recorded into... again and again, until you switch out of record. |
It seems to be so yeah, which is great. MAN I haven't had such fun sequencing a module for a while... Playing and recording from sequencer steps with a little feedback and some SOT switch engaged can give some really surprising results. |
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astroschnautzer
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| Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:53 am Post subject: |
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| after getting rid of my 5v adapter I havent encountered any crosstalk problems in my system....and I have a tyme sefari too... |
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dude
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:02 am Post subject: Re: tyme safari... ho my jesus... |
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| A Dingleberry Monstrosity wrote: | Been playing around with it for the day... HOLY BANANAS!!!!
This is easily the coolest module I have ever come across. It's so easy to make weird rhythms and odd melodies.
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lovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelove... |
no fucking doubt
holy fucking shit. mine arrived today and at first i thought "this thing sounds like shit and is impossible, it just makes noises"
my god, i could not have been more wrong. it is an instrument unto itself. the amount of variability just warms my heart. and oh the wonderful chaos. squeeks and blips. great stuff. i should have recorded what i was working on:
taal tarang indian drum machine>polivoks in1>TS. wet out>polivoks in 2... TS mix out to oakley efg>motm mankato> 6db+12db outs to vca. all the while i had an lfo at close but unrelated clock speeds sending to a160/161 and sending pulses from those to the TS for rec on, reverse on, and both loop points.
that probably all sounds a bit chaotic when written but the end result sounded like i had a live tabla player in my studio complete with long form improv and consequently bit-crushed/glitched to perfection. twas one of those jaw dropping experiences. the complex and evolving rhythms were epic. and fuck this was only my first day w/it. the polivoks is great with TS particularly to introduce feedback.
the harvestman is my hero currently. thank you governor blacksnake for your deadly designs. i know i am late to the party on this as usual. (my module has had at least three owners now) sloppy seconds is ok with me at this point as shawn was out of these when i heard sandyb's recording and realized how fucking badass this thing was.
i can't wait to get a sos next to this thing. they'll have to tear me away from my machines.
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MrTea
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| Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:09 am Post subject: Re: tyme safari... ho my jesus... |
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| A Dingleberry Monstrosity wrote: | Been playing around with it for the day... HOLY BANANAS!!!!
This is easily the coolest module I have ever come across. It's so easy to make weird rhythms and odd melodies.
lovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelovelove... |
+1
Received mine last week and man this thing is cool. It often takes a while messing around re-recording, layering, loop editing SOTing with the same recording before you find that sweet groove but when you do......it's oh so sweet.
I love using it as CV recorder, I've had some fun recording clock pulses, messing with it and sending the out to trigger my SQ8 for some really interesting sequences. |
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