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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

oh my crap these prices are unbelievable, even for assembled modules. the actual assembly of the kits really must not be that involved if they only charge about $20 to do it themselves. There's some cool stuff, balanced modulator would be nice not much out there in 1U RMs in frac-land. Wish there was some more wacky stuff, not much I feel I really need as opposed to what I have....noise / S&H would be nice though I do have an ASR which is like 3 S&Hs right?

all in all a darn good thing....now they just need a new vco and filter yup.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Maybe I'm just not thinking hard enough, but what is gate and hold? random gates?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

my guess is "gate and hold" means "track and hold." when the gate in is high, the output mirrors the input, when the gate is low the output holds the instantaneous voltage that was present at the input then the gate went low.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Paia are 10v and 15v respectively so I'm guessing that would be an issue with Euro power rails?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

In a 9700 system the midi to cv act as a bus to power the other modules in series, one to power another.
Witch is the best way to power these new modules?

huh?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Blacet sells power supplies: http://www.blacet.com/misc.html
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I know that, my question is about how to distribut the power between the modules, I know blacet has a power bus too, but paia use different type of power conection, can we plug one of these new modules to another like in the 9700 system? Do I need a power distribution board? not this shit again
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well...just a thought...

There's this:

http://www.adinfinitummusic.com/PDB-1.html

...left over from when I abandoned the LN1500 FracRak Power Supply project (http://www.adinfinitummusic.com/LN1500.html)...stories some other time. You have to use the direct link to get to that page (I'm pretty sure I removed all the links to it from the website) but the shopping cart button seems to work, although the shipping calculator needs a little tuning.

This board has a six-pin Molex connector on one end for the LN1500 power supply cable. It is NOT pin-compatible with the Blacet power supply cable, so I'd be leaving that connector unpopulated.

Instead, I'd probably include a standard Blacet style MODULE power cable (Molex 0.156" 4-pin female-female) that could be connected in a daisy chain from a Blacet distribution board to any of the 0.156" 4-pin connectors on this board. There are nine 0.156" 4-pin connectors (one of these is the power input) and seven 0.100" (PAiA-style) 4-pin connectors. The mounting holes on the ends match the Blacet distro board, so it mounts OK in a Blacet rack, although there are no mounting holes in the middle. You can also mount this along the back of a FracRak like a 1u module (my preference).

You know what? It's available now (why not?), as described here (distro board, minus the 6-pin power supply connector, plus a 4-pin 0.156" power supply cable), from the link above. If there's enough interest, I'll update the page with the correct info and maybe add some polarized PAiA-style power cables...

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

my approach is have a standard distribution board format (i chose .156"); and then make up a special cable for any module that needs an oddball config, like .156" on one end and .100" or doepfer on the other. the majority of frac and DIY boards seem to use .156". ken stone also sells distro boards in that format at $10@.

lombrose wrote:
I know that, my question is about how to distribut the power between the modules, I know blacet has a power bus too, but paia use different type of power conection, can we plug one of these new modules to another like in the 9700 system? Do I need a power distribution board? not this shit again

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

ai wrote:
Well...just a thought...

There's this:

http://www.adinfinitummusic.com/PDB-1.html

...left over from when I abandoned the LN1500 FracRak Power Supply project (http://www.adinfinitummusic.com/LN1500.html)...stories some other time. You have to use the direct link to get to that page (I'm pretty sure I removed all the links to it from the website) but the shopping cart button seems to work, although the shipping calculator needs a little tuning.

This board has a six-pin Molex connector on one end for the LN1500 power supply cable. It is NOT pin-compatible with the Blacet power supply cable, so I'd be leaving that connector unpopulated.

Instead, I'd probably include a standard Blacet style MODULE power cable (Molex 0.156" 4-pin female-female) that could be connected in a daisy chain from a Blacet distribution board to any of the 0.156" 4-pin connectors on this board. There are nine 0.156" 4-pin connectors (one of these is the power input) and seven 0.100" (PAiA-style) 4-pin connectors. The mounting holes on the ends match the Blacet distro board, so it mounts OK in a Blacet rack, although there are no mounting holes in the middle. You can also mount this along the back of a FracRak like a 1u module (my preference).

You know what? It's available now (why not?), as described here (distro board, minus the 6-pin power supply connector, plus a 4-pin 0.156" power supply cable), from the link above. If there's enough interest, I'll update the page with the correct info and maybe add some polarized PAiA-style power cables...


I will be buying one of these from you very soon man!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

authorless wrote:
my guess is "gate and hold" means "track and hold." when the gate in is high, the output mirrors the input, when the gate is low the output holds the instantaneous voltage that was present at the input then the gate went low.

That's what the PAIA site said, if you click on the module and read the details.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Oh, and yeah...definitely attractive prices. I think I'll get the noise/S&H and maybe one or two others for use behind a 19" wide full panel I'm working on. You can hardly compete with prices like that even with DIY.

I've never been a fan of their graphics, though. Nor of the Frac system.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Just got an email that my order shipped today. Holy crap that was fast.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Just ordered a mixer, dual vca and balanced modulator (as well as a distro board from AI)!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

My kits arrived just a few minutes ago!

Once I get a few together, I'll post some pictures.

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