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Ekofisk
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Since this is the newb thread, I'll post my question here.

Where is the best place for cheap minijack patch cables?
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wetterberg
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Ekofisk wrote:
Since this is the newb thread, I'll post my question here.

Where is the best place for cheap minijack patch cables?

http://www.adinfinitummusic.com/PC35mm.html
I do believe there's a sale on for the rest of the month, coupon code is MUFFS
- make sure to get some different lengths, too; I find that for 12U of eurorack or less you'll find the 24" ones will reach anywhere, and the 6" and 12" ones will work nicely for cleaning up the patch. 6" are especially good for tying together two modules next to each other, or patching on the module itself.

andreas.
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Ekofisk
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Thanks! That looks perfect.

Also, he doesn't seem to offer 1/4 to 1/8 cables. Any idea where I get a few of those as well?


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Ekofisk
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

It seems both Analogue Haven and Doepfer do these.

Sorry for the laziness. smile
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photon
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Ekofisk wrote:

Where is the best place for cheap minijack patch cables?


Allelectronics has 24 inch cables for a $1 ea. (CB-352).
6 foot cables are $1.25 (CB-3561).
There are price breaks if you buy 10 and up.

I've been using them for 4 years now without any failures.
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Muff Wiggler
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

in a similar fashion to my updated comments about DOT COM (the original comments being uninformed and unfair), I have updated the initial posts in this thread regarding MOTM. At the time those posts were written, some years ago, there were a lot of complaints about the shipping time and availability of MOTM modules. From what I can gather these problems have been addressed by Paul and it has been a very long time since I have seen anyone taking issue with the sales/distribution/availability of these modules.

Congrats to Paul for fixing what was the biggest complaint about his business, and also I am very happy to get rid of comments that at this point seem unfair and prejudicial.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Boring yet important things for first time modular buyers -- things I haven't seen mentioned so far (I only skimmed pages 2 and 3).

1. You're probably going to build and use this for the rest of your life. Quality pays in the long run.

2. You need half again as many patch cables as you think. Twice as many mults. (Or twice as many bananas, but if you know what I mean when I say "bananas", this is all old news to you.)

3. You need to think about cabinets, where the thing will go in your room/apt/house, and how you will move it.

4. You need to make sure you are getting a big enough power supply.

5. You need to think about how you'll grow. What happens when you run out of cabinet space and/or power?

6. You need to think about speakers and headphones. Eventually you will make a decidedly unwanted noise with the thing, and you will need headphones to proceed. Using awful speakers or headphones on a nice modular is much like washing your socks with good vodka. I'm just saying think about it.

Even small modulars can be very satisfying and rewarding. You're going to love it.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Edit: ok, I found my answer in another thread. smile
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Thanks for this excellent thread and forum as well. Great stuff for the budding modular synthesist.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Excellent thread....but where can I find more beginner info??
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Mercutio
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Great threat, thanks. thumbs up
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Thanks for this thread, and this whole forum! I've been contemplating a modular for months and months, and I think I'm getting close to the point of shelling out or more. Everyone here has been a great help.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

kuxaan-sum

I was directed here by Human Koala. There's a lot of useful things.

http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12812&highlight=

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jahsoul
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

This was very helpful. Still not sure how power works...if there's a power amp or if these circuits are passive, but I understand how a synth works and this is the same concept so now to start losing that money.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

To jahsoul:

The circuits generally aren't passive (with a few exceptions: unbuffered multiples, for example). Power supplies are important and there are factors to consider like current draw and how much expansion you plan on.

In my case I started with a Dotcom 44U cabinet, but bought the power supply big enough to power double that amount of modules because (surprise, surprise) one's system will grow as fast as funds, space, and spousal tolerance permits.
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jahsoul
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I don't know what that means. Is 44 the amount of modules it can hold?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

jahsoul wrote:
I don't know what that means. Is 44 the amount of modules it can hold?


A 44U cabinet can hold 44 units worth of modules, so if you were to have only use single-width modules (1U/2.125" wide) you could fit 44 modules. However, the largest harness they make supports 40 modules. I am going to assume that the decision for the largest harness to power 40 modules is due to the fact that a lot of modules are 2U wide (example: Dotcom Q106 Oscillator), with some being as wide as 8U (Q119 or Q960 Sequencer).
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tuffstuff
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:05 am    Post subject: More about cabinets please. Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I like the idea about building my own cabinet. It seems pretty simple and will let the user choose how they want their module set up, size, tuffness ect. Unfortunately, I get lost at the power supply. I'm not sure what people are talking about when they refer to powers supply stats, +-15v or 12v, how much is enough to grow on and how do I connect the modules to it. There's a connector board? Not all power supplies will work in my country?

Are there any resources or tips that anyone would like to share? Any comprehensive cabinet building resources? If it helps, I live in the US. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:24 am    Post subject: Re: More about cabinets please. Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

tuffstuff wrote:
I like the idea about building my own cabinet. It seems pretty simple and will let the user choose how they want their module set up, size, tuffness ect. Unfortunately, I get lost at the power supply. I'm not sure what people are talking about when they refer to powers supply stats, +-15v or 12v, how much is enough to grow on and how do I connect the modules to it. There's a connector board? Not all power supplies will work in my country?

Are there any resources or tips that anyone would like to share? Any comprehensive cabinet building resources? If it helps, I live in the US. Thanks.


Generally you'll have a power harness or a power supply board, that each module connects to. Though specific to synthesizers.com, the concepts apply to many modulars:
http://www.synthesizers.com/power.html
The power to the modules is DC - usually a positive voltage and a negative voltage, so country-specific voltage stuff (as well as all AC-to-DC conversion) will be taken care of at the power supply and/or the power interface modules... some will have a switch to go between AC voltage levels.

DIY cabinet info (for MU format, but you could make your own designs if you understand the dimensions of the module format you choose to go with):
http://www.synthesizers.com/diycabinet.html
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:44 pm    Post subject: more about power supplies and formats Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Will I get more bang for my buck with a smaller format such as eurorack? Can I mix formats using the same power supply and pc board?

Also,
when you mix formats do 1/4in to 1/8in conversion cables interfere with control voltages?

Thanks!
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