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kindredlost
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| suitandtieguy wrote: | | Have you tried running numerology rewired to cubase, then run sync unit DC in numerology? |
I forgot to mention that I tried that too. I couldn't figure out a way to manage Sync Unit DC from Numerology. It comes up as a module but only has MIDI Clock IN, Audio IN and some other hookups which I didn't find useful for this. I could be implementing it wrong but it was fairly DOA when I tried it. At second glance I may have not tried to use the audio track method to send through Sync Unit DC in Numerology. I don't see the advantage of that over a couple of midi channels in Cubase to be honest.
Possibly, all this is a mute point now.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| kindredlost wrote: |
Will the Time Buffer operate as if it has sync24 input to it? Midi will start and stop the Time Buffer and slave modules?
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Just to verify...is this accurate? If so it's a really clean solution...and it makes it that much easier for me to begin to take the plunge on the STG Time Suite, without waiting for the other forthcoming goodies. |
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| essex sound lab wrote: | | kindredlost wrote: |
Will the Time Buffer operate as if it has sync24 input to it? Midi will start and stop the Time Buffer and slave modules?
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Just to verify...is this accurate? If so it's a really clean solution...and it makes it that much easier for me to begin to take the plunge on the STG Time Suite, without waiting for the other forthcoming goodies. |
Of course I am assuming that it will.
If I read the specs on midi correctly, the "native" clock is actually 24ppq so it's just a matter of offering this to the Time Buffer in the proper pulse packet. It should be noted I be talkin straight outta' my ass,  but that is my limited understanding of midi in relation to sync 24.
That is why I was interested enough to buy a Moon 553 midi module. It offers 1/96th divisions which is the same as 24ppq. Supposedly it gets this pulse from the native midi clock timing. That's where I got the notion.
The bit about midi starting and stopping the Time Buffer is still an implementation issue for Suit & Tie Guy, but it looks as if the kit offered will allow for this in some form.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Yes it should start and stop the transport, it translates midi clock to din sync.
And I think if I'm clever enough with my wiring they could both fit on the same connector, so you wouldn't lose any functionality. If I remember right MIDI uses the other two pins.
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| suitandtieguy wrote: | Yes it should start and stop the transport, it translates midi clock to din sync.
And I think if I'm clever enough with my wiring they could both fit on the same connector, so you wouldn't lose any functionality. If I remember right MIDI uses the other two pins. |
There could be issues with the 4 & 5 pins when in din sync mode. There are some devices that may need these for fill-in/continue and reset/start functions. Possibility that there could be a wonky behavior there.
I read this on the Blacet Research data sheets for the IC converter chip.
I have no clue whether it is for real or nothing to worry about. Just saying... it might be worth checking into.
I would be pretty cool to have both. Maybe a switched setup? Hardware crap - I know.
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Thanks. There seems to be a few different manufacturers making this type of device. This one looks like the cheapest price.
I did get the Moon 553 Midi To Clock module today. It puts out the proper 24ppq pulse but the midi start/stop is separated into two 1/4" jacks which are a short pulse instead of a long gate ON/OFF. So I am running these to a Q962 Sequential Switch and the switch into the Time Buffer. The 1/16th notes out from the 553 is sent to the 554 Octal Clock Divider for divisions to the dotcom sequencers, LFO resets, etc..
There is a way to send midi note on from two separate regions of the midi note values to the 553 and it will act as a gate for this sync24 RUN/STOP function, but I really am trying to find a way to avoid having to generate a midi track for that.
I think this Doepfer device may actually be a better way to do it. At least I wouldn't have to burn a Q962. But now that I have an octal divider I may not ever need two Q962's anyway.
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