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paults

The MOTM-650 4ch MIDI-CV will be the 2nd retired module in 13 years, when
the last 8 in the cart are sold.

I have run out of stuffed boards, jacks and panels. It is cost prohibitive
to run more of this module based on the "sell rate"/maturity of the product.

The BLOWOUT price is $439ea ($60 off). The cart is updated.
(www.synthtech.com, click ORDER tab, click MOTM Assembled modules tag).

In order to complete all 8, I have to get more jacks from Singatron, and
they usually quote 7 week lead time. Also, due to Christmas/NAMM, these last
8 will not ship until Feb/March (based when the jacks get here, everything
else is sitting here ready to go).

The '650 support will always be there: I have extra parts, CPUs, LCDs, etc
for the next 20 years. Your investment is safe. After the 8 are sold, I will
post up the schematics and the *binary* CPU code (NOT the source code, I do
not have rights to it). If anyone wants a pre-programmed spare CPU (it's a
44-pin PLCC, in a socket) the cost is $12/free shipping. Email for details.

Also, in case you are wondering: no, I do not plan to "reissue" the '650. I
may offer another MIDI-CV but it will NOT have dual arpeggiators or tuning
tables. It would be stripped-down quite a bit. So again, the feature set of
the '650 will still place it on the top of the pile (despite the issues in
the current code). If there is another 5U MIDI-CV from me, it is at LEAST 6
months off, more likely 8-10. A MIDI-CV seems trivial at first until you
start putting in all the expected features. It gets big quick! Jeff & Neil
crammed every bit of RAM and Flash to get all those features in. Maybe
someday they will release a V 1.4 for the '650 (you can update the firmware
over MIDI using a Mac). But the hardware is costly (I just want to break
even with these 8) and the sale rate is low.

Lastly: for those of you that bought a '650 in the last 90 days: email me
and I'll refund you the new price difference.

Thanks to everyone for supporting my 'little hobby' for 12+ years. I am
planning for 2011 already. Time to go solder!

Paul S.

JohnLRice · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:41 am Post subject:

I'm sure glad I have one! it's a really great module!

hhhmmm . . . maybe once they are all sold, and you are sitting around with nothing to do lol

as long as you are clearing out the old stuff maybe you can throw together some of those MOTM-600 sequencers??? hyper

sunsinger · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:22 am Post subject:

sduck · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:01 pm Post subject:

Damn it and the time of year - I won't be able to afford one of these at this great price until after they're most likely all gone. I guess I'll have to go 2nd hand for one.

JohnLRice · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:32 pm Post subject:

haricots · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:37 pm Post subject:

I kind Of regret selling mine - I needed the room and cash. Definitely a great module.

paults · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:45 pm Post subject:

I suspect the last one will sell about June, 2011 Dead Banana

zomgw00t · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:54 pm Post subject:

paults · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:18 am Post subject:

There are still *8* left SlayerBadger!

doctorvague · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:55 am Post subject:

bf · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:11 am Post subject:

Glad I didn't sell mine when I needed the cash. If they last long enough I just may pick up a second.

giorgio · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:44 am Post subject:

I keep thinking about getting one of these to replace my encore expressionist. mostly for the arp functionality, esp. w/ internal clock. but I don't have or plan on getting any other 5u gear. basically means I need an enclosure for it and PSU, although I'm sure a cheap surplus supply will be easy enough to find.

anyone have thoughts on a small enclosure for this? maybe a little boat. how deep are these?

loydb · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:11 am Post subject:

Bought 1. I didn't see an option to add the extra CPU for $12 in the shopping cart, but I'd like one as well.

Thanks,
Loyd

paults · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:35 am Post subject:

Loyd: send me an email to: synth1@airmail.net requesting that.

All others: if you want one at time of purchase, just put that in the Comment box.

Re; stand-alone: The unit uses the 6-pin MOTM connector with dedicated +5V. You will need:

+5V @200 ma
+15 @ 50ma
-15V @ 25ma

the depth is 6 inches. It ships with the cable, so just whack one end of it.

rico loverde · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:22 am Post subject:

I just got one a few months back and I love it. This is a great deal.

mome rath · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:38 am Post subject:

order placed

hihi

loydb · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:33 pm Post subject:

cornutt · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:20 pm Post subject:

I love mine, and I've never had any of the problems that some people have reported. There are a few things you need to know in order to set it up properly. I wrote a blog post about it.

russma · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:25 am Post subject:

run, don't walk, to the ZenCart.

It's a powerful module.

thumbs up

JohnLRice · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:40 am Post subject:

ZenCart

bwhittington · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:28 am Post subject:

I love that two people claim to have placed orders, yet there are still seven available for sale. hihi

Cheers,
Brian

paults · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:47 am Post subject:

I had 3 more CPU boards in storage that were not in the finished goods rack.

tomcat · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:08 pm Post subject:

Paul, would you sell me one without jacks (and maybe also without frontpanel if you dont have one)? Would like to integrate it in my custom systems (with these flimsy mini jacks wink

).
Depends on what parts you have / you miss and how big the controllerboard is (i assume the jacks are wired and not soldered directly to the board ).

paults · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:11 pm Post subject:

If anyone wants a DIY version, email me synth1@airmail.net

tomcat · Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject:

emailed!

tomcat · Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:14 pm Post subject:

Paul, did you get my mail?

paults · Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:48 pm Post subject:

Yes, I am waiting for some other vendor emails/quotes before I can say if I can do this or not.

tomcat · Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject:

Ok thanks. Just reserve a pcb only module or a complete module for me. Dont want to miss the 650!

tomcat · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:38 am Post subject:

Just 1 left .... screaming goo yo

ach_gott · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:01 am Post subject:

Retired, chillins!

nanners

discomicke · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:43 pm Post subject:

Damn it! Looks like i missed this one. Was planning to buy a 650 early next year.

Paul, all 650's gone ?

zomgw00t · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:59 pm Post subject:

*single tear*

~Chappie

tomcat · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:16 pm Post subject:

Paul is putting the steaks on the grille. Kids preparing for nanners

Funky40 · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:06 pm Post subject:

paults · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:00 pm Post subject:

All have been sold, if I can get any more made I will post. I have 2 dead CPU boards that I might get running if I have panels.

sunsinger · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:09 pm Post subject:

When will you be sending the chips out? I ordered mine December 3rd.

Low-Gain · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:12 pm Post subject:

Really wish i had the cash. :(
I'll just have to borrow Scott Deyo's from time to time. hahaha

paults · Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:43 pm Post subject:

Ron:

Thanks for reminding me. Will program them this weekend.

mome rath · Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:49 am Post subject:

Status update?

sunsinger · Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 1:04 pm Post subject:

This reply was sent on Jan 16th regarding an order for a preprogrammed 650 chip I had ordered in December.

paults · Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 6:00 pm Post subject:

I will get busy on it!

loydb · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:49 am Post subject:

Last email I got was 'late june.'

mome rath · Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:26 pm Post subject:

loydb · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:30 am Post subject:

Poke of course. smack!

tomcat · Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:43 am Post subject:

I feel like late june. Paul ... update?

sduck · Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:29 pm Post subject:

He's moving right now. Has announced that he'll be off the web and email for a while.

tomcat · Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:24 pm Post subject:

And away from sending us our stuff ... which was scheduled for may.....

John Nonjohn · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:28 pm Post subject:

Any updates?

paults · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 5:18 pm Post subject:

I'm about 85% unpacked, starting to ship small orders (panels, pc boards, rails, etc). Will be 2-3 weeks until the bench and equipment is set up and I'm back to a regular schedule.

mome rath · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:43 pm Post subject:

paults · Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:02 pm Post subject:

I have bought a small panel run for the '650. They are $10 more which helps the cost of the panels ($40ea!). www.synthtech.com, click ORDER tag, then in upper left corner click MOTM - Assembled.

Setting up the workbench this weekend so I can start soldering again. Unpacking is 95% done, enough to get going.

sduck · Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:52 pm Post subject:

Just ordered one! One less left for the rest of y'alls...

essex sound lab · Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:02 pm Post subject:

sduck · Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:06 pm Post subject:

No doubt I did! I'm an experienced motm customer, so I know not to be in a hurry. I'll pay my money, and get it when I get it.

JohnLRice · Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:44 pm Post subject:

The MOTM-650 is WELL worth the wait! thumbs up

(although no waiting would be best! Mr. Green

)

essex sound lab · Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:05 pm Post subject:

Just thought I'd mention it, as I didn't see it in the post here.

tomcat · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:03 am Post subject:

News?

ach_gott · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:17 am Post subject:

synthetic · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:44 pm Post subject:

Posted on his Yahoo list on 8/21:

tomcat · Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:49 am Post subject:

The ones we (the first X ones) are waiting for had just missing jacks as far as i remember....

Edit: I did remember right

mome rath · Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject:

tomcat · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:34 pm Post subject:

1 month more waiting without an answer ....

bphenix · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:45 pm Post subject:

Not to excuse your wait at all (I am waiting for an order as well), but I did see this on the mailing on Monday:

I will have a 2-3 weeks "break" from Euro module assembly (I'm out and waiting for the assembly house). So, I will start back on the MOTM backlog. I received CA3280s from a new source, I will test them out in a '480 VCF and in a '190. I am just about 100% caught up in the prior 2.0 DIY orders. I plan to start shipping the '650s a week from tomorrow and if there any left over I will put them in the cart ~ 10 days. These will be more $$$ than before because of having to make a limited panel run.

I'm still adjusting to the grandbaby's schedule but woking again at odd hours like I did 18 years ago when my son was this age. Y A W N .......

Paul S.

So maybe (just maybe) you will see your order go out next week.

paults · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:07 pm Post subject:

I never EVER claimed to be fast. I just claim to be good (that's what she said, etc....).

I'm simply time-limited, and that's just how it is seriously, i just don't get it

decaying.sine · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:06 pm Post subject:

dude · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:01 pm Post subject:

ds your avatar is fantabulous. did you take that pic?

decaying.sine · Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:29 pm Post subject:

Christopher Winkels · Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:17 am Post subject:

I could use a glow-in-the-dark cat. One of ours has a habit of putting her tail in my path when I stumble around at night.

sunsinger · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:17 am Post subject:

nerdware · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:29 pm Post subject:

I can appreciate your impatience, but that's harsh. For the record, I'm happy to wait for my 650 to ship.

For me, the hard wait only begins then, as it travels across the Atlantic and then sits in a warehouse for weeks, until the customs people finally process it. very frustrating

sunsinger · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:55 pm Post subject:

synthetic · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:40 pm Post subject:

decaying.sine · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:45 pm Post subject:

In my experience, the card is charged when the item is ready to ship. However, if you use paypal then it goes out right away.

nerdware · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:06 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I used a credit card. Apart from making sure I have the money in my account when the module ships, there's no problem. Goldfish

synthetic · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:43 pm Post subject:

I have always gotten an email reply within a few days. However most of my orders were kits (sigh, I miss those) or MOTM 2.0.

sunsinger · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:49 pm Post subject:

This is all true. OK. Everyone who has been waiting for SynthTech to ship something for 8 months to more than a year, please raise your hands.!
Be honest now...

peeninety · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:19 pm Post subject:

with motm kits being available from bridechamber now, i think a quicker option might be to order one from them and pay someone to assemble it for you, if you are not able to assemble it yourself.

decaying.sine · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:24 pm Post subject:

I have purchased beaucoup 2.0 stuff and it all shipped within two weeks. Some shit, like some parts I just got from Paul shipped one day after payment and arrived within two days of payment.

The only built stuff I have purchased were a power supply and patch panel. Those shipped within a month.

I had a few modules on order once, 300's, 440, 650, and I was able to cancel the order to and apply the funds to 2.0 stuff. I canceled around the two month waiting period give or take a couple of weeks.

Paul is always straightforward about the speed issue. I have found that he generally revises shipment times if you make contact with him and ask him what is up. He also posts updates to his work and life practically every week for as long as I can remember on yahoo groups so you get a sense of what is going on.

I get the frustration people feel. They're nice modules and you want what you pay for. It's just that this is a known and admitted thing. I don't think there is any solution. Didn't Shane even take different work and so there is no help now? From what I recall he has always delivered. Unlike other vendors who we are well aware, he always keeps in communication and doesn't seem to drop off the face of the planet when things get behind.

Anyways, just wanted to chime in with a little data and also my feelings on it. I do feel your pain though. I just don't think this will change for 5U stuff.

paults · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:57 pm Post subject:

If you can't wait, buy .com or Modcan. You won't hurt my feelings (much) seriously, i just don't get it

BTW: I got 6 MOTM-650 board sets today from Shane the Tech, so these will ship later this week. Right now I am getting an order together for AH for a few Euro modules.

decaying.sine · Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:59 pm Post subject:

tomcat · Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:52 pm Post subject:

I always had good business with paul. Im even used for grants times wink

But here we ordered the modules in december, regarding paul there were just the jacks missing which should arrive in feb/march. So we have 9 months now, 6 more then expected.

Little bit long for soldering a few jacks (if the modules where not build that time and he had to setup a new assembly line it would be a different story).

Anyway, if we get them soon i will be happy again smile

loydb · Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:19 pm Post subject:

sunsinger · Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:16 pm Post subject:

nerdware · Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:33 pm Post subject:

Is it possible to cancel an order? If you're really that bothered by the wait, would you do that?

sunsinger · Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:41 pm Post subject:

nerdware · Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:05 pm Post subject:

sduck · Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:13 pm Post subject:

Wait, Ron. Are you saying that you're doing all this pissing and moaning about synthtech and you don't even have any orders with them? Are you on some sort of vigilante vendetta or something?

sunsinger · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:02 am Post subject:

Freedom of speech.

sduck · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:37 am Post subject:

Yup. Whatever.

Paul's business practices are REALLY well documented - any kind of research by potential new buyers is going to turn up the stories of his delays and long waits. But it will also turn up that everyone's gotten what they paid for. And his email communication is great - I've gotten a reply to everything I've sent over the last 8 years. Those that complain about communication are expecting weekly status report emails, which doesn't happen folks - also well documented. And/or people who don't know how to spell their reply email address or work their spam folder. And yes, order cancellations are accepted and even encouraged in some cases.

Except for one instance, all my dealings with Paul have been fairly quick and successful. There was one time I ordered a handful of kits right after they had been discontinued, and the wait for the last 2 of these was 2 years. But during that time I didn't panic or get in a snit (mostly) - Paul was very quick to reply to my monthly inquiries, and everything got here eventually.

paults · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:59 am Post subject:

2 year kit wait = 988 orders in 2 weeks (unexpected) + Paul Haneberg's stroke (unexpected, he was doing my kitting for me) + getting laid off from day job.

There's no real point in 'warning' everybody. The list of people I've pissed off is endless. Hell, I've pissed off everyone from The Chemical Brothers to Jeff Rona/Hans Zimmer to Depeche Mode to Joe Walsh to Ron S. I am an equal opportunity pisser-offer. seriously, i just don't get it

sunsinger · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:31 pm Post subject:

paults · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:49 pm Post subject:

It's *always* been a hobby. It's been a fairly successful one, but it's something I do in my spare time. Everyone else I'm aware of in 5U, they do it full-time.

Again, why beat the dead horse? Why does it even matter to you at this point?

paults · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:51 pm Post subject:

Getting back on track here: I now have 8 full MOTM-650 board sets ready to go and on Monday, the oldest 8 orders will be shipping.

stiebz · Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:54 am Post subject:

Just wanted to add a positive comment for Paul.
I had ordered several kits in the past and they all came within reasonable time ( a few months is very reasonable I think). It must be quite the job to sort out all these individual components and pack them so professionally and well documented.
A wrongly delivered part got replaced in no time.

Thanks for all your effort Paul, if there comes another very last batch of the MOTM-650, I hope I will be able to order one of these.

paults · Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:00 am Post subject:

I will have a count on Monday afternoon how many 'leftover' parts/pc board/panels I will have. I will then announce here/other places and put them into the shopping cart at www.synthtech.com These will take between 2-3 weeks to ship as I have to order additional LCD displays (see next paragraph).

The price will be up a bit due to my increases. Just for fun I looked last night at the IC pricing and my eyeballs popped out. I bought these parts about 7 years ago, and most of them have doubled since then. The worse-case was the little LCD display: it went from $7 to $18!

paults · Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject:

Well, I have put 2 MOTM-650s in the shopping cart at www.synthtech.com for $499ea. These are available for sure, there may be more later but I will have to have some ribbon cable assemblies made up and my supplier takes 2 weeks at least. I will hold the price at $499.

stiebz · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:30 am Post subject:

Thanks !
Ordered mine, so only one left...for now

synthetic · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:37 pm Post subject:

FYI, the software programmer for the MOTM-650 posted to the Yahoo list this morning that he's got a beta version for the next firmware update. Of course, he's been talking about this for YEARS, but it made my hope for this update go from a 1 to, oh, a 1.2 at least.

paults · Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:51 pm Post subject:

Current FW revision is 1.3. The new version will be 1.4

If you have a PC, there is a utility to Flash the firmware over MIDI. No Mac app. If you are a PC-hater, I will do it for $10. Once it's available.

loydb · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:18 am Post subject:

On the subject, I'm going to build mine as a standalone unit, and a 900 would be overkill for the power supply. Anyone have a link for a smaller power supply that will provide the +/- 15v and 5v? seriously, i just don't get it

Thanks in advance.

JohnLRice · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:31 am Post subject:

loydb · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:43 pm Post subject:

Thanks! I've found some Elpacs with 5v and +/- 12v, but no +/- 15v. I may just go with the QPS2, just to have the easy expansion possibilities if I want to add something down the line, and frankly, eliminating the wall wart is probably worth the extra $50 smile

JohnLRice · Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:09 pm Post subject:

loydb · Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:04 pm Post subject:

I just went with the QPS2. I'd wanted one of their reverbs anyway, so I killed 2 birds with one Paypal.

My 650 showed up today! Thanks Paul, it looks great.

paults · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:57 am Post subject:

Update:

I am getting more parts together to build another 20 or so MOTM-650s. These would be ready mid-November.

sduck · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:48 pm Post subject:

Do these include the ones ordered in July, like mine, that were promised in September/October? Or is this another batch of unordered ones? Just curious - I can wait...

paults · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:00 pm Post subject:

The '650s on order as of today will all ship in October *if* the cable assembly house will ship me a few more assemblies. I think they are slow and that's saying a lot.

I was referring to 'unordered' ones. I have ordered more ribbon cables and will have to have more pc boards stuffed (I have the blank boards already). The price will hold at $499 even though my cost went up ~%30 since last build (the DAC in there is now like $23).

paults · Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:25 pm Post subject:

a) V1.4beta is available, that fixes the 2 main issues with V1.3 (assigning CC00-31 to AUXs).

If you are not on the MOTM yahoo group and want a copy, PM me. You will need a WinDoze PC w/MIDI interface to do the update.

b) I am building 12 additional MOTM-650s for realease *when* V1.4 is finished (guessing late Nov). They are in the shopping cart at www.synthtech.com

nerdware · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:41 am Post subject:

I have a Linux-based machine, so I guess I won't be able to update the firmware. waah

Unless...the updater simply sends a sysex msg? I can easily do that myself.

paults · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:46 am Post subject:

a) no, ther is a handshake w/CRCs and timing involved

b) I will update the FM for $15 if you ship the unit to me. But if not on the beta team, just wait until it's final. I will announce here when ready to go.

ach_gott · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:05 am Post subject:

I've got mine! applause

nerdware · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:51 pm Post subject:

Shipping could well be expensive, as I'm in the UK. I'll not bother updating, thanks.

sduck · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:38 pm Post subject:

Mine just arrived also! Very excited. And it's my first preassembled module ever!

kindredlost · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:22 pm Post subject:

diophantine · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:00 pm Post subject:

sduck · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:35 pm Post subject:

paults · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:03 pm Post subject:

6-layer pc board, 0.1% resistors, 5ppm voltage reference and AD822ARZ op amps (check the price on these bad boys).

I'm slow but I do good work.

bwhittington · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:47 pm Post subject:

cornutt · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject:

For those of you now receiving your 650s, I refer you to my articles on it here and here. Much more informative than the manual. Mr. Green

sduck · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:15 pm Post subject:

Wow, thanks Dave! A great resource there. And why haven't I ran into your blog before now? Hmmm? And what the heck are you doing living an hour down the road from me and I never knew it? Hmmmmmm???? Too many questions.

BTW, my 650 is up and running great!

numan7 · Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:31 am Post subject:

mine should be arriving any day (along with power supply, rails and patch panel)! hyper

my octopus is just clamoring to connect its 2nd midi output, and 4 tracks, to the 650 (whilst sending its other 6 tracks to an Analogue Systems RS370 Polyphonic Harmonic Generator eurorack module)... Dead Banana

and it will be the midi decoder of choice for 4 track pe/pek sequencing into
my modular system! thumbs up

a-and double arpeggiators.... )) !!

Homer Simpson

life is good!

cheers,
7n7

EATyourGUITAR · Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:57 pm Post subject:

so jelly that you have a genoqs and a 650. thats like my dream rig and both discontinued.

I was wondering how possible is it to memorize all the utility stuff on the octopus to work in the dark

paults · Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:57 am Post subject:

The MOTM-650 is officially avaliable, there are 12 in the shopping cart right now smile

EATyourGUITAR · Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:08 am Post subject:

paults · Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:56 pm Post subject:

I may if I sell all 12. I'm currently using up parts/pc boards in stock without having to make more pcb panels which are $$$ (it's a 6 layer pc board).

cuponthetable · Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:26 pm Post subject:

paul, will you be making any 650s in the near future, it's everything i've dreamed of in a single module!

paults · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:29 am Post subject:

Not in 2012, no time.

JohnLRice · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:31 am Post subject:

Paul is up to his assballs in euro modules at the moment! hihi

decaying.sine · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:31 am Post subject:

What's the latest firmware Paul?

decaying.sine · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:32 am Post subject:

paults · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:55 am Post subject:

Latest is 1.4beta

keninverse · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:36 pm Post subject:

Are there any left?

paults · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:56 pm Post subject:

No.

In order for more to be made, 3 things would have to occur:

a) I would have to run more CPU boards through SMT assembly. I do have the bare boards. There is a $250 fee + parts cost + ~$14/board for the assembly.

b) I am out of front panels. So I would need to order more.

c) due to price increase of the LCD (it went from $7 to $21...really!) and other parts like the DAC, the price would jump up to $529 ea.

To even consider doing this, I would need 15 pre-sold ones. I don't know if there is a demand for 15 or not.

keninverse · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:42 am Post subject:

I'm still kicking myself for not picking one up but at the time cash was tight. If there is a demand I would be in for one even at $529.

The Hamburglar · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:06 am Post subject:

I'm going to hold out a couple months for the Grove module; it is exactly what I want and John told me there are a small group of modules 'in process' right now.

It's crazy how there are no other multi-channel options available in 5u other than the Modcan which is $450 more (though admittedly more full-featured.)

keninverse · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:04 am Post subject:

I have a Maddox/Elby/Oakley PolyDAC and however much I love the thing, the 650 kills in terms of features.

synthetic · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:08 pm Post subject:

Is anyone running 1.4b? What are the changes? Does it seem stable? I have 1.3 and it's been running great, though I'm only using it as a 1-channel device.

diophantine · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:51 pm Post subject:

Paul - I would be interested in an MOTM-650. Couldn't commit (financially) for another few months, but it sounds like you wouldn't be able to start working on them until the end of the year, anyhow.

paults · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:48 pm Post subject:

The #1 bug fix in V1.4 is being able to assign CC messages to the AUX outputs.

synthetic · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:48 pm Post subject:

Huh, all I use the aux outputs for is to send CC1.

Do you mean I could send different CCs to all of the Aux outputs individually? If so, where do I sign up?

paults · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:17 am Post subject:

Yes, V1.4 lets you assign up to CC31 I think (been a while since I looked). Each AUX can be a different CC message.

The current V1.3 lets you assign the "fixed" controllers OK (like Mod Wheel).

If you have a PC you can flash over new firmware. Else I have to do it.

synthetic · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:34 am Post subject:

Cool, I'll dig through the Yahoo list to find the info on how to flash it. I have a PC in the garage.

sempervirent · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:02 pm Post subject:

decaying.sine · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:05 pm Post subject:

I am sure I'd buy another one too.

If I can figure out how to use the one I have hihi

paults · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:45 pm Post subject:

Well that is a thought.

Q: does Kickstarter get a fee even if funding fails?

decaying.sine · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:50 pm Post subject:

Just read something that says kickstarter charges 5% if funded and nothing if not funded.

decaying.sine · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:51 pm Post subject:

Paul, can you flash from a Mac Pro running Win XP on Parallels?

sempervirent · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:57 pm Post subject:

decaying.sine · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject:

It looks like Amazon charges a credit card processing fee of 2-5% in addition to the Kickstarter 5%.

sempervirent · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:07 pm Post subject:

paults · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:29 pm Post subject:

I would lose 4% anyway but willing to only inch price up say to $539.

If you want to try the code (just to see if it runs without crashing) it's at

www.synthtech.com/m650

It's the sfuu.exe file and the data file is the .sfi (I may need to put the V1/4 SFI but again just to see if it goes). You need BOTH of MIDI IN and MIDI OUT connected for the CRC handshaking.
The '650 has a upgrade firmware page. It does work over PC as I've done it several times in the past.

drip.feed · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:00 am Post subject:

Ockeghem · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:35 pm Post subject:

I'm sure there are others who are up for new MOTM modules.
Or even re-issues.

whitewulfe · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:57 pm Post subject:

paults · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:01 pm Post subject:

I am seriously considering it.