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wavecircle Big Audio Sodomite
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| science wrote: | | wavecircle wrote: | I have an order in mind for a 300 series system. I have wanted a 300 series since I was about 19, man they were cheaper back then... I have just always lusted after one, even more so than a buchla 200e or serge.
But, do I abandon the Fenix?
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Sounds more like you need to make up your mind
I have a feeling there's going to be a mad rush to try to get 300 systems... seems like that usually happens when the unobtainable becomes obtainable. |
I have had communications with Wiard and there is a system available for me if I want it, which I most definitely do.......
Christ, why did Grant Richter and Bert Vermuelen do this to me? Anyone got a spare £5000?
Edit: I shouldn't piss and moan really, it's the nicest problem I've ever had. |
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e-grad Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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| kdub wrote: | | I'd love to see an expanded 1200 series. I also wouldn't mind another 1200 series borg and jag. |
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Entrainer Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Fnord wrote: | Whatever it is, we all know it is going to be AWESOME.
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slow_riot Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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this is just pure speculation on my part, and I welcome any more authoritative info on the subject:
Euro Wiard is not going to die... I think Grant has encountered some problems that he wasn't expecting but I have read many posts where he has shown his love for the 'budget' small format modules, and I don't think he is interested in making them himself, and so I believe this is where Malekko fits into the picture. He has made a recent post about what is coming out and it seems unlikely this will change.
However, I believe his favourite work to do is the 300 series.. and I believe this announcement is that the 300 series is again available in small numbers and maybe some new modules in this format. |
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vasculator Veteran Wiggler
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| i am honestly scared by the thought of a more robust anti-oscillator in 300 format. |
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wavecircle Big Audio Sodomite
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I get the impression from the Wiard site that the 300 series is almost certainly coming to an end once parts are exhausted. Production of the 300 series has been intermittent in the last few years. They are apparently incredibly time consuming and difficult to build and QT etc... Hence the long waiting lists for those that get on it. |
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Entrainer Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, probably the Euro will continue... or perhaps he's so frustrated
with the WO and Envelator issues (I don't mind) that's he's scraping
the format completely.
Whatever he does, I think it'll be +15V, star distribution. Maybe
even a dedicated power supply, distribution that he controls and
manufactures. Like Serge + Buchla.
I don't know him, but I can tell by reading that he's a perfectionist.
And he's into his creations functioning as intended, less motivated by
cash, more motivated by creating his perfect instrument.
So now that I think about it, I could see him dropping Euro and
adopting something like Bugbrand/Frac. More affordable but still meeting
his standards.
At the same time, there's hasn't been a new Wiard euro module in
awhile. I love my Wiard/Malekko modules. A lot. So, no disrespect
intended to that partnership. This is pure speculation. _________________
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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| It will be exciting to see what the new product line is. Pretty sure it won't be frac though. |
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vasculator Veteran Wiggler
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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i think this is probably pretty close to the mark. i doubt euro would be abandoned but i could definitely see a new power infrastructure and the re-release of all previous wiard designs in that format. maybe similar in size to the 300 series. it would be pretty hard to deny something like that. it's awesome to see new activity from Wiard that's for sure.
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Whatever he does, I think it'll be +15V, star distribution. Maybe
even a dedicated power supply, distribution that he controls and
manufactures. Like Serge + Buchla.
I don't know him, but I can tell by reading that he's a perfectionist.
And he's into his creations functioning as intended, less motivated by
cash, more motivated by creating his perfect instrument.
So now that I think about it, I could see him dropping Euro and
adopting something like Bugbrand/Frac. More affordable but still meeting
his standards.
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Muff Wiggler The cake is a lie.
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| wavecircle wrote: | | I get the impression from the Wiard site that the 300 series is almost certainly coming to an end once parts are exhausted. Production of the 300 series has been intermittent in the last few years. They are apparently incredibly time consuming and difficult to build and QT etc... Hence the long waiting lists for those that get on it. |
Yeah the site is pretty clear about that. I've heard rumours of "few 300 series parts left" and it seems like they will use up the "VERY LIMITED" components left and that will be the end of 300 series. Then from what I understand there will be something new.
With that said I have a 300 series dual Mixo for sale (yeah sorry to spam this thread) which I foolishly bought last week the day before my basement flooded. Probably one of the last 300 series available so hit me up if interersted.... _________________ "I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down." |
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wavecircle Big Audio Sodomite
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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It's a shame really. The 300 series modules are quite simply incredible in design, what I really love about them is the functional density. I personally hate large modular systems but with the Wiard you can do so much with relatively few modules. The classic VCO for example is a ridiculous module. Not only is it an incredible analogue VCO with more than comprehensive range, modulation and syncing abilities it also has a VCA, mixer, envelope generator, envelope follower, lag processor and god knows what else on it.
I think I might be leaning the Wiard way. |
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Fnord Discordian Wiggler
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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So many cool unreleased designs. So curious.
Hope to see the walkabout module. _________________ bsmith: it would be awesome to see people with lots of euro give them pokemon values and do battle
Muffwiggler: I've seen communities ruined over politics. I've seen friendships end over racism. I've never seen these things happen as a result of breasts. |
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Entrainer wrote: | HOLD ON...
I just saw this:
"A new product line is currently in development"
Does this mean that Malekko and Wiard are parting ways?
Or a new format completely? |
Easel? _________________ "...I often heard sounds which filled me with an indefinable dread—the dread of vague wonder and brooding mystery. It was not that the sounds were hideous, for they were not; but that they held vibrations suggesting nothing on this globe of earth, and that at certain intervals they assumed a symphonic quality which I could hardly conceive as produced by one player."
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Muff Wiggler The cake is a lie.
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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god, i hope not.
give us something new! something that's never been done before! _________________ "I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down." |
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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while i really hope the collaboration with malekko isn't coming to an end (my wiard euro modules are my favorite euros, hands down), i think i'm being drawn ever closer to making the plunge into a 300 system...
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Mitchk1989 *Probably* not a cyborg.
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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an easel type thing could be something new... If by 'easel' you just mean a single package wiard creation meant to be a patchable but ultimately self-contained synth.
I'd rather buy stand alone units that supplied their own power and stuff while still 'playing nice' with the main modular formats in terms of patching than get into an entire new modular format, but that's just me I guess. |
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Muff Wiggler The cake is a lie.
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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It kinda bugs me that the term Easel is getting taken away from the original instrument and is now starting to apply to any small-to-mid size semi portable modular setup
soon enough if you Google "music easel" all you're gonna find is a bunch of people's Eurorack setups  _________________ "I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down." |
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, its not like buchla is doing anything with the name... Weren't like only 14 music easels ever made? If they weren't made of pure unobtainium you'd probably see the name applied more to the original. |
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Muff Wiggler The cake is a lie.
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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in related news, check out my awesome new Shelby Cobra!
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps the Wiard Electroniums will finally see the light of day? I'd buy a Space Box...
 _________________ "...I often heard sounds which filled me with an indefinable dread—the dread of vague wonder and brooding mystery. It was not that the sounds were hideous, for they were not; but that they held vibrations suggesting nothing on this globe of earth, and that at certain intervals they assumed a symphonic quality which I could hardly conceive as produced by one player."
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