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Go to multitrack HW or stay on DAW ?
 
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:43 am    Post subject: Go to multitrack HW or stay on DAW ? Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Rigth now i've even used Live LE for recording my modular
I send all my source to a Fostex 450 and send the mix to a Motu (sometimes i send even the direct out of some tracks for apply FX )

Live Le has much limitation and so i'n thinking to change something, i don't want upgrade to Live o Live studio so i'm trying Reaper, has a nice price, and looks good for much thing ( i love the audio routing matrix) but i've to learn another software .. may be a HW digital recorder that have 4/8 track is a good solutions ?
Some suggestions ?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Adobe Audition/Cool Edit Pro. Good stuff! Very affordable!

DAW's will be the most flexible.. i would stick to that if u have the I/O

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

units like the roland VS2480 are not sexy and quite aged, but they provide reliable, solid and surprisingly sophisticated hands-on performance for little money.
turn on and go. no driver / updates / incompatibilities / crashes and other issues.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I've been pleased with the results from a Roland VS1680. I sometimes use it to record shows because I can put it in a suitcase, hide it in a closet or something and capture up to 8 mic feeds at once. the pre-amps are pretty terrible though.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Low-Gain wrote:
Adobe Audition/Cool Edit Pro. Good stuff! Very affordable!

DAW's will be the most flexible.. i would stick to that if u have the I/O


i never think in adobe audition but i see that is 422€ but i think the same, the DAW option is the most flexible but i can't afford a big expense so another option can be Logic Express (199€) and a controller, i've a BCR2000 and i can use it in MCU, ,i've played with logic in the past, so i can't start from the scratch ..

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Pro Tools 9 maybe ? It integrates relatively well with Live I think.

I don't mind HD recorders, but editing can be cumbersome with them. If you need good editing options, I'd be careful to go that route.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Paraphonique wrote:
... but editing can be cumbersome with them. If you need good editing options, I'd be careful to go that route.


yes, that's true.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Whether you record to a stand-alone digital hardware recorder or a DAW, it's really the same thing... you're recording onto a "harddrive". The quality of the audio interface is what really matters IMO(that's what you're hearing). It's still bits and bytes either way. thumbs up
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

It might take some time to learn all that Reaper has to offer, but so far, I've found that it's totally worth it. The DAW is getting better and better and has a very active development crew. You definitely won't be left in the dust, as far as updates are concerned.

As CF3 said, if you go the computer DAW route, invest in an interface that suites your needs and that has good converters, then learn the DAW software. Trust me, it won't take long, especially if you're doing standard things like recording and mixing.

I'm not a hardware hater, but as economical as it seems, a 4/8 track digital recorder will probably be limiting.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

If you do any nonlinear editing at all, stay on the computer.

If you use lots of FX and need to have the settings saved (as well as use things like tempo-locked delay or tremolo) stay on the computer.

I recorded several albums on an all-hardware setup, but thinking back on all the hardware I had to set up separately for each song I mixed seems like a huge burden. I had a lot more time back then, though...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

drewtoothpaste wrote:
If you do any nonlinear editing at all, stay on the computer.

If you use lots of FX and need to have the settings saved (as well as use things like tempo-locked delay or tremolo) stay on the computer.

I recorded several albums on an all-hardware setup, but thinking back on all the hardware I had to set up separately for each song I mixed seems like a huge burden. I had a lot more time back then, though...


I agree with all of this. I made lots of music with just hardware and while I'm proud of all of it, it did take a long time and required a lot of needless editing. DAWs cut down on a lot of the number crunching.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

be careful as adobe audition has just become party of the creative suite cs 5.5. it has been completely re-written and is missing many of the features of the older versions. many long time users are feeling severely let down.

i've been using it since 1995 (when it was still just plain old cool edit), and so i am LOATHE to switch platforms after 16 years of experience, but i am seriously considering going over to the new samplitude pro x when it is released in a couple of weeks. it's only a little more expensive than aa, but is probably going to be far better.

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