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plord
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Babaluma wrote:
it was a friend of a friend type thing, not gospel, but it apparently seems unlikely that any more controllers (or JAGs) will be made in any format, for various reasons.


Well, JAGs are coming in Euro Real Soon Now (see Malekko forum) so at least part of that hearsay is disproven.
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Ekofisk
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I think Cary told me very recently that there were no new controllers being made any more. Whether this is permanent, I wouldn't know.

But I seem to remember Grant saying in some post a few weeks (months?) ago, that new JAG boards had arrived and that this meant a batch of controllers was on it's way? I might recall that wrongly.

(reading over it, this really isn't the most helpful of posts!).
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I spoke to Cary about this a good while ago and there were the PCBs and parts available to make them. The sticking point was the panel IIRC. The blue panels are the really expensive part. It costs the same price to make 1 as it does to make hundreds I've been told. I guess they need more people placing orders in order to justify the purchase of plates.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Yeah, just guessing, but my experience with FPE says that the controller panel is likely a $200 item.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Its not the silkscreening that is the problem. The metal has to be dyed on a large scale, i think we are talking thousands to make a batch of blue plates. For this reason 1 costs as much as a large batch. Its a large scale process and wiard would really have to have numerous orders to make it worthwhile.

I have just read that pfe do one offs. Hmm, interesting.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I passed on the information to Babaluma that in a recent conversation with Cary, she had mentioned there are no immediate plans to manufacture the New Controller. I bought B's New Controller and we spoke in person about how Grant had mentioned somewhere that many people don't understand the module, from inference, I believe the NC was to make use of unsold JAG PCBs. It's a great shame as my experience thus far has placed it amongst my most inspiring experiences using music machines. Organic expressive FUN control and modular style meta-decision making (or as any normal person would say: trial and error).

This information was recevied right before the Malekko JAG was announced. If anyone wishes to obtain the wonderful JAG I think euro is your best chance. Or failing that FRAC users migrating and selling on their old equipment.

Oh yeah, anyways, I own a black 310a and 371, 361.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Babaluma wrote:
it was a friend of a friend type thing, not gospel, but it apparently seems unlikely that any more controllers (or JAGs) will be made in any format, for various reasons.

i repeat, it's HEARSAY not gospel. wink you should call and ask grant or cary for a definitive answer.


I just e-mailed Grant recently with this very question, but haven't received a reply... hugely disappointing, as there is nothing else remotely similar available. Would've bought yours if I was a bit more cashed up at the time waah
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, if the jag is definitely coming in euro, then it's not the end of the world!

lol
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: How many 300 series systems are out there? Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Just registered to add my system (12 modules + original controller) to the list ...

recent live performance audio excerpt (improv noise rock):
http://www.lemon-session.com/2011/07/17/liquorball-ss10-live-both-5202 011/
not-so-recent live/live-in-studio recordings:
http://cowsarejustfood.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/liquorball-with-steve- mackay-evolutionary-squalor-rocketship/
http://www.archive.org/details/SteveMackayWithLiquorballOnTheStuckOnSo undShow

band music video (Wiard @ around 1.40):
http://www.vimeo.com/27365734

more by the same band (variable amounts of Wiard per track):
http://glitterwizard.bandcamp.com/

Doug
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Hi Doug, welcome! Off to update the post...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

i've got 3 modules:

waveform city
dual borg
sequantizer

i owe a video and some soundclouding, after i deal with some flooding im going all in on sharing data
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

plord wrote:
Would be interesting to count them. I bet we have a fair representation just here on Muff's.

Grant, obviously.
Cary Grace too.[/size]


You might find this startling, but Grant never had time in 11 years to build a system for his own use, and I only have one module so far (with no knobs). Interestingly enough, Wiard did not deliberately set out to be a non-profit organization...whoops!

Seems a situation where the demand was not predicted, and so we both forgot to make some for ourselves first...

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:59 am    Post subject: Re: How many 300 series systems are out there? Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

acidhangover wrote:
Just registered to add my system (12 modules + original controller) to the list ...

recent live performance audio excerpt (improv noise rock):
http://www.lemon-session.com/2011/07/17/liquorball-ss10-live-both-5202 011/
not-so-recent live/live-in-studio recordings:
http://cowsarejustfood.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/liquorball-with-steve- mackay-evolutionary-squalor-rocketship/
http://www.archive.org/details/SteveMackayWithLiquorballOnTheStuckOnSo undShow

band music video (Wiard @ around 1.40):
http://www.vimeo.com/27365734


more by the same band (variable amounts of Wiard per track):
http://glitterwizard.bandcamp.com/

Doug



Hey Doug!

I just have to say: Really dig your stuff in Liquorball etc. Man!

Also didn't yet know that Glitter Wizard had an lp out!!!

Thanks,

Mika
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construct09
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:47 am    Post subject: How many 300 series systems are out there? Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I have 5 and I have recently ordered 2 more....I WANT A 311 angry
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

15 * 300 series modules plus an "old" controller plus 10 * 1200 series modules in blue here...
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