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Royalston

How do I do I make a clock via silent way to drive the urzwerg pro?

I have tried outputing square waves from an audio track sent via the silent way outputs and it works pretty well on the Z8000....but it only makes the the urzwerg move very slowly. It seems to step randomly. What would be causing this?

Thanks

os · Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:23 am Post subject:

This is from an ES-3, right?

What kind of clock is the Urzweg expecting? Is there a user manual?

Royalston · Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:31 am Post subject:

I asked manfred this question. His reply : The Clock In/Out is MIDI compatible, 96 clocks.

That was all...how do i make this on silent way?

os · Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject:

Start with the dinsync preset in thte SW LFO plugin, and adjust the Beats setting.

matttech · Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:41 am Post subject:

iL · Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:58 pm Post subject:

got this issue as well.

only workaround is to use the mfb as the master, loosing one gate output to trigger all the other slaves.

using the clock in / out both seems to need the 96 wich ends up, on in mode (mfb as slave, in random response on slow motion, fast it seems quite ok but totaly out of sync ) on out mode it just blasts out 96 time base steps. throwing in into a divider makes a kind of swing from a 8th hit and a osc triggered by the mfb urzwerg.

quite experimental.

96 / 8 is = 12 steps.
against the 8 steps from mfb.

iL · Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:10 pm Post subject:

oh yep the mfb urzwerk seems to has no switch possibility between 16 clock and 96 clock.

wselman · Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:02 pm Post subject:

Heh. I didn't even realize there were presets for Silent Way. It's peanut butter jelly time!

I'm going to try the dinsync with René later and I'll report back.

iL · Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject:

was thinking about the math with 96 clock and 16 clock.

actually it needs a divider by 3 then you got 32 clock and after it another divider by 2 to get a 16 clock.

the other way a multiplier by 2 and then by 3 back to 96 clock.

the 96 value is because you can use triple notes of course...

chrisso · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:01 am Post subject:

wselman · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:09 am Post subject:

So, Rene can work clocking Silent Way's LFO but is inconsistent and sometimes the clock cuts out or jumps around irregularly. I'm using a motu 828(mk I).

Rene also doesn't directly pick up the clock from Silent Way. I have plug it in through a clock divider. I believe that this because Rene requires > 2.5V to clock and I'm not 100% clear on what SW outputs with my set up. As an experiment, I boosted the signal from SW through a VCA and at max volume Rene picked it up.

I'd like to get a liitle more consistency before using Rene in tandem with SW and a master clock. Any suggestions on getting a solid clock and signal?

deastman · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:50 am Post subject:

I haven't actually tried clocking Rene or my SEQ01/02 modules from Silent Way yet. But for other modules, I use Silent Way Trigger plugin, triggered by Sonar's step sequencer. This gives me the bonus option of routing a rhythmic master clock signal to the modular.

chrisso · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:55 am Post subject:

As Silent Way is so great at playing synths, thru cv and gate, it would be great to have a proper clock facility to run sequencers.
So far, albeit with limited time spent, I've had the same results, inconsistent and jumpy.

Kirk Degiorgio · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:00 pm Post subject:

i'd like more info on this too pls.

i was planning to make Rene clocked by ES3 the main sequencer in my system but if SW doesn't output a proper Midi Clock with Stop/Reset/Start, etc I may go the MIDI-CV route despite MIDI jitter.

KD

os · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:05 am Post subject:

Silent Way LFO should be pretty solid as a clock source - if there are problems, I'd like to get to the bottom of them, so please provide more info.

Getting the correct voltages to trigger various hardware can be an issue, especially when using audio interfaces, which tend to have a lower voltage output. The ES-3, with it's ±10V output, ought to be able to trigger pretty much anything, certainly in Eurorack.

I've put a lot of effort into the clock output of the ES-4 via the ES-4 Controller plug-in. This new code is actually designed for clocking, rather than repurposing an LFO. I intend to release this as a separate plug-in (to be used with hardware other than the ES-4) soon.

bodo · Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:08 pm Post subject:

Never had any problems with my ES-3 clocking both René and/or Brains&PP.

Usually I mult the clock to said René, Brains and Timetable through Stackables and a Buffered Multi. All in perfect sync!

wselman · Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:57 am Post subject:

s o l v e n t · Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:54 pm Post subject:

RSB · Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:46 am Post subject:

[quote="s o l v e n t"][quote="wselman"]

os · Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:11 am Post subject:

Silent Way Sync now available:

http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47146

s o l v e n t · Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:59 pm Post subject:

[quote="RSB"][quote="s o l v e n t"]

RSB · Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:03 am Post subject:

A link to the manual doesnt tell me where it is in the manual. As i still cant find it.

I also asked this at Manfred from MFB:
I got a question about the Urzwerg Pro. I saw on Muffwiggler.com that it is possible to set the analog Clock-In from 1/96 ppq to 1/1 ppq
This I need as i want my 808 trigger-output to step the Urzwerg Pro. On Muffwiggler they said its in the manual but i cant find it.

So i dont want to use it with MIDI but just with analog gates/pulses to sync it with the TR808

This was the reply:
The clock input is always 1/96. You can step only via MIDI.

?????

RSB · Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:27 pm Post subject:

Nobody?

RSB · Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:45 am Post subject:

So i wrote again to Manfred asking about the urzwerg, and told him i only have a 808 anfd want to sync them. This is the reply...

The TR-808 should have 1/96 trigger too, but I am not shure if the Start(Stop is compatible.

Manfred Fricke

??? eek!

s o l v e n t · Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:18 pm Post subject:

I used to have a Urzwerg, and since then have a Seq01/02 ... I was mixing them up when I said that the Urzwerg could be switched to received 1/1 clock - sorry about that... it is the Seq01/02 I was thinking of...

So, you need to send the Urzwerg a 96 ppqn clock. You can send a 96 ppqn clock with Silent Way - it's covered in several threads here on this forum. Your 808 is not going to output 96 ppqn. If you are looking for a way to sync your Urzwerg by means other than Silent Way, then you are asking your questions to the wrong forum.

RSB · Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:53 pm Post subject:

Well im a system100m user. But paying $1000 for a 182 sequencer is a no go in my case. So i was looking in at the urzwerg. I use a CSQ600 to drive the Sys100m at the moment. Which also provides clocking for my TR808 and CR78. I might go for the oberkorn now, to go along with my Sys100m as it does have a step/clock input. Maybe im ignorant but i cant understand that there is no step input on that urzwerg ?!?!?!

s o l v e n t · Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:20 pm Post subject:

RSB · Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:55 pm Post subject:

The clock-in on the CR78 is 48ppq and the TR808 24ppq (as in Dinsync)

I think i skip on the urzwerg and try to find a oberkorn3 It's peanut butter jelly time!

wselman · Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:09 am Post subject: