Muff's Modules & More

vinayk · Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:48 pm Post subject: Problem with tiptop Zeus

Hi guys,

I'm hoping someone can help out. I have 2 x powered Zeus and 2 x passive connected up via one power plug as per instructions. (e.g. Powered 1 sends to powered 2 and passive 1. Powered 2 sends to passive 2.
Ive just filled up 168hp which as taken me to need to use the 2nd powered/passive boards for any new modules.)

I just noticed however that the +12V led I not lighing on both of these - the other 3 are blue. From memory in the past they have all lit up. I did plug a new module into one of them (correctly oriented- but then noticed this issue and took it out - it didn't change back. I have since tested the module on my other boards and it works fine.

I have rechecked all the connections any thoughts?

radiodread87 · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:09 am Post subject: Re: Problem with tiptop Zeus

Mitchk1989 · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:55 am Post subject:

I have one bus board that came from AH with the -12v light not lighting up (its a powered board) but it appears to be at least mostly functional as the passive board chained off of it is getting -12v... It might be just a dead LED, but I'll have to do some further testing as I'm getting a bit of weird behaviour with a couple of modules... Maybe something in my zeus system is in fact faulty... Or maybe I just have a kinda shitty connection somewhere.

starkaudio · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:23 am Post subject:

I too have a dead blue led on one of my Tiptop Passive boards...but cannot detect any faults in the power system. Emailing Tiptop was helpful and reassuring but distilled down to "dead led, you should be fine." I've had no problems.

exper · Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:19 am Post subject:

lombrose · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:29 am Post subject:

My +12v led was flickering, but I got +25v on the +12v bus of my FoH power, the strange thing is that the +12v and -12v leds on the power module are normal... seriously, i just don't get it

http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42032

Gribs · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:59 am Post subject:

Did TipTop get a run of bad LEDs or is there another issue?

I am watching in earnest as I am planning an expansion to a new case and had decided to go with the Zeus + Cincon system for power. I am a couple months out at least so perhaps it is best to wait and see.

50quidsoundboy · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:07 pm Post subject:

i know i started another thread for this, but i'm just adding my name here as someone who's got a flickering +12v LED on a passive Zeus board.

lombrose · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:04 pm Post subject:

50quidsoundboy · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:16 pm Post subject:

rydan · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:20 pm Post subject:

I have a blue led on my uZeus that's on sometimes, and off sometimes. Measured, and the power on the flying busboard doesn't change, everything works as it should, just the led that's acting up. Looks a bit as if TipTop has gotten a batch of bad leds...

bkbirge · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:33 pm Post subject:

I just got a uzeus in that when I plugged a bunch of modules up the -12 led dims to almost off, thought I had an Asys 110 in backwards so freaked and turned it around without thinking it through and THEN blew it up, grrr. I hate being dumb.

lombrose · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:01 am Post subject:

Hey, look at this:

http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=637901#637901

I Did a new measurement and post on the thread above.

bsmith · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:07 am Post subject:

There was an issue on the initial run which Gur corrected where the negative rail was going down on some boards. If gur said there's a dead led on a newer run then no big whoop, but if you're using like all makenoise + only modules or something on said board the - rail problem wouldn't be apparent. You might check that negative rail out just for grins if it's an older board.

Gribs · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:12 pm Post subject:

lombrose · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:03 pm Post subject:

About the high voltage (25.6v), I think it´s a regulator problem.
I am thinking about to change the flickering led to see what happens...
In my board it`s the +12v led, if it´s the same for everyone it might not be a bad batch of leds... eek!

daverj · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:59 am Post subject:

lombrose · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:51 pm Post subject:

lombrose · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:00 pm Post subject:

Ok, R1 and R2 both are 4.7K ohms giving 4.68 at the multimeter and R3 2.2K ohms giving 2.17.

Now after this test I don´t think it is a resistor problem.

Blue Lantern · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:17 pm Post subject:

You can also try this test to see if the LED is okay. Get a 9v battery and with wires connected to the battery tap into the Ground and + voltage you want to test. For example ground and +12v on the pins. Of course don't have any modules or anything else connected to the passive strip board you are testing. The light should light up a little bit even with 9v and 4k7 resistor. At least you will know if it is the passive that is the problem or your power supply.

lombrose · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:38 pm Post subject:

Hummmm, at least the voltage didn´t change while the led was flickering...