Muff's Modules & More

[Tubeampguy]

Anyone ever seen a case that would house and power both FRAC and EURORACK?

[Tubeampguy]

Well I guess I'm not alone wanting a combo rack for both FRAC and EURORACK.
Now all we need is a rack manufacturer to step up to bat and offer it up. Are you listening MONOROCKET, ETC, ETC

[Cat-A-Tonic]

Not commercially,
but you could DIY a case with 2 PSUs and 2 bussboard systems.
Make one row for each format.
I've seen it done by others in the past.

[BananaPlug]

The last two iterations of my frankensynth use a metal frame. Each 3U row can be used for frac or euro easily. It's kind of a post and beam construction. Each rail is supported by legs going straight to the back of the case. That provides some flex so you can get the rail to rail spacing you need for frac or euro (a small difference). The rails use a sliding nut that takes an M3 screw. That takes care of side to side issues. You could split a rail, adding legs there and have a row that's half euro and half frac.

Here's what I'm talking about. I used it as three rows of frac but any of the rows would accommodate euro just as easily. If the lack of a little lip above and below the euro modules bothers you you might add some kind of filler strip and attach it to the legs. small gaps between rows are helpful for cooling anyway. The metal stuff is called Microrax. The cost adds up by the time you get all the little bits of hardware but it served my purposes very well and goes together quickly.

[mamonu]

[Tubeampguy]

[Tubeampguy]

I found this online from Elby.
www.elby-designs.com/panther/euro-frac.pdf

[limpmeat]

Can you use normal rack mounting rails for Frac? Thinking of building a new rack for some frac modules and I have some spare rail lying around.

[adamf]

I have been focusing more on my frac than euro of late. I wanted to get a delay module into my frac system. Thinking it over, I realised that my Harvestman Tyme Sefari measured 15 hp, which happens to be a very good size match for two frac spaces. So, with a bit of bravery, I mounted it into my frac case by drilling some appropriately spaced holes in the frac rails and making a little power connector adapter. Powered it on and have been enjoying it ever since. Not sure about the wisdom of running it on 15 rather than 12v, but it works for me (so far...).

Using this same principle, you could mount any combination of euro modules that adds up to 30 hp (ie: 4 frac spaces) into a Frac system, provided they are ok on 15v.

[adamf]

[solitaryzen]

[Adam-V]

[adamf]

Actually, I'd almost forgotten about this portable Euro/frac system that I set up a couple of years ago:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/14288700@N02/sets/72157616560355458/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/14288700@N02/3427702246/

A lot has changed since then with inevitable module purchases etc.. At that stage I was running the whole system on +/-12v.

[Cynthia]

We have a new Zeroscillator, ZO Engine Board design coming out in a about three-weeks that is a single surface mount PCB instead of the former block of four circuit boards. This allows mounting in much more shallow cabinets. The whole depth of the module is now around 2.5 inches!

As far as top and bottom clearance of the Front Panel Assembly with it's own pair of circuit boards, maybe I can narrow the vertical height of the FPA with this in mind? I'll have a look, I know it as a tight fit before.

We still have several of the large FPAs for Frac ZOs already assembled here waiting for these new engines to arrive so we can dock and ship.

One of the things that makes the ZO special is that the tuning and exponential converter are not tied directly to the power rails, instead they're fed by a precision Voltage Reference so once calibrated, they will work just fine regardless of 12V or 15V power supplies

http://www.cyndustries.com/modules_zero-osc.cfm?type=37

[solitaryzen]

[noisefor]

I used an Audiopile 12U case to run both systems in one. The Audiopile stuff is solid and affordable. I mounted 9U Blacet Frac rails/power in combo with a 3U TipTop Happy Ending kit that has its own discreet power source w/wall wart.

The cases are a minimum 10" deep with two lids for access (disadvantage to dual setup is Frac mods tend have PCB's mounted in series and can be as much as 6" deep so you have to accommodate for depth unlike Euro which are generally parallell mounted to face plates).

You can easily DIY something like a TipTop zeus 1200ma powered board for the Euro stuff with the Zrails and ears (which are all mountable on standard rack equip.) if you don't want to use up the 6hp for the TipTop power switch, for example.

The Audiopile cases are a great bang for the buck if not a little bulky and heavy with both lids on - good if you play out with a dual rig as I do. Interior is plywood so you can easily mount stuff too. Both sides have rack rail but you can lighten overall weight by removing rear rails.

http://audiopile.net/products/Cases/RUE_Roadracks/RUE_Case_products_pa ge.shtml

Picture of rig (which has changed a bit...):

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[Tubeampguy]

[reignbear]

[giorgio]

maybe randall can help?

[ddoyen]

how about getting a paia or blacet rack, and something like a tiptop happy ending..or whatever combination of frac and euro you have in mind and stack and mount em up in a nice wooden box?

i'm thinking that's what I'm leaning towards..(unless I'm missing something and it's a bad idea??)

I got my 9700 together and want to get some of the newer paia modules and some blacet stuff eventually but I think I wanna get a rack of make noise stuff together..shit is just soooo damn cool.

[adamf]

[adamf]