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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

i have an old yamaha b212, cheap, loud ,kind like fendertwin, in controls etc
good solid state amp from the 70's
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I thought attenuators were only useful with tube amps?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

"attenuator" might have been a little misleading there. that word is specifically used in the guitar marketing world to describe something that lets you pump the glow through the tubes while keeping a reasonable output level. i should have said attenuation, generally speaking.

while on most ss amps an attenuator or brake or power soak is useless because of ss output circuits, on a few they really help the cause. the sunn amps in particular. think of it as a secondary (or tertiary) master volume mixer control. the amp head sends to the speakers and the speakers distort, etc. to produce a sound that you either want, or don't want when it's really loud. using an attenuator in between with an ss amp, you can "trick" the system into producing something you want. obviously an attenuator on a built-in ss combo amp would be pretty useless.

case in point: i played and toured all over N.A. for several years in a few bands, "punk" genre i suppose you could say. we would rarely get our amps mic'd, much of it was diy showspace type stuff. before one of our last tours my sound city 120 head took a total shit, so i got a sunn concert lead instead to drive my ampeg v4 cab.

with the sunn cranked i could get this blistering tone that had a HUGE amount of attack in it, which i loved. but it would drown out everything but the cymbals. this attack didn't really exist at lower volumes, the tonal nature was kind of the same at low vol, but the sonic quality was greatly diminished. it sounded farty. few days later my pal gave me like some $10 volume box attenuator pedal, and that absolutely solved the problem.

i could get the same tone, with all the color and expression i wanted from my playing, at a reasonable enough volume.

a volume pedal would work, also. i didn't have luck with only the volume pots on the guitar though.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

There's nothing in this thread for you then, move along

There are plenty of tube amp threads - feel free to sing along!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I use a Gallien Krueger Backline 600 into Ampeg cabinets for both my Bass and my modular. I have a friends who uses it or guitar. Great SS distortion.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

My favorite in the "If I could only keep just one" vein is the Crate VTX200S. An outstanding amplifier in many, many ways.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:20 am    Post subject: Re: Good Solid-State Amps Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I have a PCL Vintage Amp Stagemaster 75 which I'm using with a Tube Town 1x12" box with a Jensen NeoDym. It has been developed by Jürgen Rath who is quite well known for his amp designs in Germany.

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What I like:
Feedback dunno (never tried)
Early Breakup (depends on the amp) dunno
Sufficient volume check
Spring Reverb check
Reliability check
Portability (I don't really have the means to lug around a quaddie w/ check200w head)

What I dislike:
Lots of knobs check
Built in FX/models/blergh check
Creamy Clapton tones dunno
Approval from Johnny DeMarco check

Some good preamp/pedal recommendations for added dirt would also be greatly appreciated.


I like to use a Digitech BadMonkey before going into it.

The downsides are:
- This model is not produced anymore (the SM60 mini-top is somewhat similar)
- Rarely be found on the second hand market
- I guess they are not that easy to get outside Europe
- Distorts pretty fast in the lead channel when not modified

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Resurrecting a dead thread rather than starting a new one.

I was staying at pulse-divider's studio in Akron last month and played through this amazing crazy solid-state amp he has. I also recently built a Noisy Cricket 1w amp in a pedal enclosure and really really like it. My tube amps (a Rivera Venus 3 and a Vox Night Train) are both terrific, but break up quick and I often just want a nice glassy clean tone and low noise to run with pedals.

I have a 2x10 cabinet wherein I plug the Noisy Cricket and the Vox, and I'm thinking I'd like to find a solid state head with personality. I don't need or want DSP or effects or modeling. I might even end up finding a DIY project and building it, so recommendations to that end are nice as well.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

As much as I hate to say it publicly (not really, I like this stuff!) Try older Peavey amps. They are dirt cheap, bullet proof and some are REALLY good. The red stripe envoy110 or Bandit 112 are favorites here. The old Artist 40 and Studio Plus were super flexible little amps. Most of the time, a speaker swap to a prefered voicing can make them shine for a lot less than the cost of a tube amp or mess of pedals to get a sound.
And I'll admit to there only being 3 Peavey, 2 Fender and a Blackstar in the studio now. (Not counting 3 Leslies) The Bandit is the one hooked to modular today.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Thanks. Yeah, Peavey. I had a Peavey keyboard amp in the 80s.
Ideally I find a head to use with my 2x10 cabinet rather than a combo.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Any of the Roland JC's nanners
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Fender Amps from the 90s are relatively solid and sound OK.

I had a friend who had a Fender Performer and we pushed it to its limits....

I must admit I still had my Fender Bronco bought in 1995 or 1996 (distortions i wild), it works well, I use it with my Moog, I use it with my guitar...not perfect, but I still enjoy it despite having as well a good old Fender tweed...

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Can't believe nobody mentioned Pearce yet. seriously, i just don't get it
I have a G2r and it really is a happening ss amp. Good feel and tone both clean and dirty I think.
It is very patchable too with a lot of ways to split the two channels and use the stereo power amp.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Pearce amps never really made it here in the US - they're really rare. And I seem to recall that they had some kind of bad reputation for reliability back in their day, but that may be incorrect. I always wanted to try one though - they had some great ads.

Edit: just did some research, for some reason I was thinking they were British made or something. But they were made in Buffalo New York. There are a few for sale on eBay right now. Maybe not as rare as I was thinking!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

sduck wrote:
Pearce amps never really made it here in the US - they're really rare.

I guess Rath and PCL Vintage amps are rare in the US, too. The don't have a distributor, so you have to order directly although I bought mine some years ago from Tube Town in Germany. But this also means customizations are very easy to order. Since I wrote my posting in 2012 I got some other loud speakers: WGS Retro 30 and Invader and use them with the Stagemaster 75 when I want more color. They are meant to be used with my Gossmann isolation box which enables quick exchanging of the loud speakers in a very clever way. I hope I'm not becoming a loud speaker collector because of that feature. eek!

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colorbars wrote:
Any of the Roland JC's nanners


There's a mid-90's JC55 for sale near me for $250. I might take a chance on it this weekend.
What I'm hoping is whether it's easy enough to unplug the internal Roland 8" speakers and run cables to my 2x10, which I have wired so that I can use each speaker individually at 8Ω or at once at 16Ω.*
If so, I might be tempted, as a "hey let's make this more hassle than we should!" kind of project, pull the chassis and see if I can make it a head for my cabinet.

*(I found a 2x10 cabinet put to trash on the sidewalk last year loaded with two crummy Peavey drivers, some awful wiring, and a terrible smell. I ordered a couple of Webers and wired it so I could use one at a time at 8Ω (stereo!), or both at 16Ω. It sounds really really good with my little 1w Noisy Cricket, and just amazing with my Rivera Venus 3. I often unplug the Rivera's 12" Celestion and use this 2x10. Smell is gone now too.)

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Question about the Jazz Chorus amps, specifically the JC55, if anyone knows.

How are the speakers connected to the chassis/amp? Are there two cables, one for each speaker? Would it be simple to merely unplug the two speakers and plug in my 2x10 (wired where I can use each speaker individually...)?

My current combo allows me to just unplug the 12" speaker -- it's got a TS jack connecting the speaker, which I can just unplug from the chassis. I haven't found any photos online that allow me to see if the JC55 is similar.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Just me wrote:
As much as I hate to say it publicly (not really, I like this stuff!) Try older Peavey amps. They are dirt cheap, bullet proof and some are REALLY good. The red stripe envoy110 or Bandit 112 are favorites here. The old Artist 40 and Studio Plus were super flexible little amps. Most of the time, a speaker swap to a prefered voicing can make them shine for a lot less than the cost of a tube amp or mess of pedals to get a sound.
And I'll admit to there only being 3 Peavey, 2 Fender and a Blackstar in the studio now. (Not counting 3 Leslies) The Bandit is the one hooked to modular today.
seconding this
i have an ancient rage 158 which is a fine little practice amp, and with the preamp out, its my main distortion unit!
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