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DanielW Veteran Wiggler
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franzschuier fart box afficinado
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Got my Tempest for Christmas:
Build Quality is great and I am anal about these things. Totally different to everything else I ever had in my Hands from DSI. (Roger Linn maybe?)
The OS is unfinished BUT the finished parts are great! Thoughtfull layout. Not to many jumps and already great features. - If I compare this to e.g. a 888 or 999 its worlds apart for such a deep machine. _________________ current bandcamp release:
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jenamu6 Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:42 am Post subject: |
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Hi Franz and other owners out there,
I'm still on the fence for this one.......but honestly, did you manage to synthesize some punchfull kicks out of it?
I'm not talking about the onboard samples......cause you can have those anywhere.
I'm talking about the synth engine......is it able to deliver punch.
Cause still, all I'm hearing till now (and it's been out for a while) are bleeps and bloops and half baken drumsounds.
There's no way to test one around here (imagine ....I'm in Rotterdam).... _________________ Open tape:
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jefffressco Learning to Wiggle
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| jenamu6 wrote: | Hi Franz and other owners out there,
I'm still on the fence for this one.......but honestly, did you manage to synthesize some punchfull kicks out of it?
I'm not talking about the onboard samples......cause you can have those anywhere.
I'm talking about the synth engine......is it able to deliver punch.
Cause still, all I'm hearing till now (and it's been out for a while) are bleeps and bloops and half baken drumsounds.
There's no way to test one around here (imagine ....I'm in Rotterdam).... |
Same here, wanna hear it & gonna hear it! Gonna get me one in 2 weeks  |
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jenamu6 Super Deluxe Wiggler
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jefffressco Learning to Wiggle
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| jenamu6 wrote: | | .....I think I know enough by now. |
.... I just read the thread of Raphie at SF.....man o man... I'm really disappointed.. but still... I want to try it... .if not.. i'm going for an 808 |
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franzschuier fart box afficinado
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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I am happy with the sound. But I am happy with my Op-1 and my buchla too.
I think if you want the ooompf of a 808 or 909 you should buy one of them or a 888 or 999. but good luck with the User interface on the jomox boxes.
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RonF Common Wiggler
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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I've had mine for about 7 weeks. Its really a great box. Build quality is outstanding. And sound quality is remarkable IMO. Paired with my Octatrack, this thing is ridiculous! Really, its taken on a more synthetic looper roll in my studio than I anticipated. I got it for its analog-ness.... but its ability to mangle various sounds, patterns, and phrases into outrageously cool synthetic loops (which I then sample into Octatrack and mangle further!) is really remarkable. Pretty much any pattern is just a foundation for some serious "manglement" and pattern remixing on the fly. I just tweak and tweak and virtually everytime come up with something new, fresh, and excellent. Oh, and its a pretty cool drum machine too!  |
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jefffressco Learning to Wiggle
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, so you guys think I won't be disappointed if i get a Tempest? I'm searching for a next level 808/909. because of all the great possibilities this device has, the tempest really looks like my thing. But like others I'm wondering if it can deliver a fat and punchy sound (mostly kick and snare), worthy to follow up the "808/909 standard"...So I can be satisfied that I never owned an 808 or 909.
Is this possible? Or if not, will the sound improve in the next OS, if that's even possible..i have no idea. (Pym?)
Please enlighten me!
ps: sorry for my semi-poor english. |
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jessem Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| It's way more than an 808/909. If that's all you are looking for get the real deal or a Jomox or something. |
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jefffressco Learning to Wiggle
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Yea, I'm going to loose the idea of the 808 and 909 sounds, time to start a new age with a new drum sound/machine... the Tempest!
But still gotta wait 2 more weeks to get my money for it.. LOL
Pym, I believe in you! |
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jenamu6 Super Deluxe Wiggler
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monads Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:15 am Post subject: |
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The Tempest is an entirely different/new instrument, forget about it trying to sound like an 808/909. I'm sure the creators weren't trying to clone the 808/909 either.
I have not used a tempest. It looks like fun though. _________________ my music/website at http://www.OdysseyofaG.com |
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jenamu6 Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:27 am Post subject: |
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It's been put on the market as a analog drummachine, a drummachine needs to deliver punch.
The samples are OK, but you can find them anywhere on any other machine.
This has nothing to do with 808's, 909's(although they are the benchmark)
The analog engine just doesn't deliver any punch.
Every demo I heard/seen lacks that essential ingredient, so for me(and many others) it fails at being an analog drummachine.
It's more like a drummachine with a analog synth slapped on it.
I'm not flaming, I'm just giving my opinion (after being very dissapointed, cause I was ready to buy one) _________________ Open tape:
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franzschuier fart box afficinado
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Jean you need a jomox drummachine then. Or a 909 808. I had a 888, 999 and a 808. Sold the 808 because of money, the 888 and 999 sound is great, cant say enough good things about it, but the UI is, well, the worst I ever had to use. Thats why I switched to the xbase09.
But I concur that a DM needs a 909 type BD. There are lots of styles and genres you dont need/want one and/or it gets buried in the mix anyway. Lots of classic DM like LD, Oberheim DX and the quirky old Roland ones dont have any Oompf at all.
And the tempest is something different and new. I like the lack of nice presets and im comming up with supernice and unusual sounds already. Plus as said before the UI is the bomb! _________________ current bandcamp release:
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jenamu6 Super Deluxe Wiggler
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franzschuier fart box afficinado
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| jenamu6 wrote: | | Franz.....I respect you as a person and as a musician, but saying a linndrum, Oberheim DX, 707 etc have no punch is just ridiculous. |
They do have Punch... Which the Tempest has too. I was referring to the OOOMPF BassDrum of a 909, 808, 999, 888, xbase ...
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jessem Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| jenamu6 wrote: | It's been put on the market as a analog drummachine, a drummachine needs to deliver punch.
The samples are OK, but you can find them anywhere on any other machine.
This has nothing to do with 808's, 909's(although they are the benchmark)
The analog engine just doesn't deliver any punch.
Every demo I heard/seen lacks that essential ingredient, so for me(and many others) it fails at being an analog drummachine.
It's more like a drummachine with a analog synth slapped on it.
I'm not flaming, I'm just giving my opinion (after being very dissapointed, cause I was ready to buy one) |
That's a fair assessment but a bit subjective. I think it has a different flavor than the 909/808. To me the 808 is boomy, and the 909 is definitely punchy, chest hitting. I have a 999, which gets me the 909 satisfaction and a lot more. The 707 kick is not punchy to me at all, they tried to get to close to an acoustic kick and it sounds like they sampled a tennis ball.
The Tempest has a unique sound and feature set. I really like mine, and find it a very creatively designed machine. If you just to try and emulate 808/909 sounds you may be disappointed due to the expensive and more involved interface. It would be like buying an A6 to make 303 sounds. |
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nadafarms Buy and Sell
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| jenamu6 wrote: | It's been put on the market as a analog drummachine, a drummachine needs to deliver punch.
The samples are OK, but you can find them anywhere on any other machine.
This has nothing to do with 808's, 909's(although they are the benchmark)
The analog engine just doesn't deliver any punch.
Every demo I heard/seen lacks that essential ingredient, so for me(and many others) it fails at being an analog drummachine.
It's more like a drummachine with a analog synth slapped on it.
I'm not flaming, I'm just giving my opinion (after being very dissapointed, cause I was ready to buy one) |
+1 and I think a lot of other people will reach the conclusion that it's just a set of samples and a DSI synth slapped together being controlled by an AWESOME Roger Linn interface.
Really good analog drums sound don't just fall out of the sky, I think roland is the only company that understood it takes a more complex set of circuits and programming to making hard hitting analog drums. Many companies have tried and while there are some great modules and individual drum units, nobody has really put it all together in one package and made it sound amazing like roland... and I'm not some roland fanboy freak and don't own a 808/909 right now.
I'm still planning to try out the tempest once it's cheap, finishied OS and used around $1200-1300 but if they make a Roger Linn only drum machine sampler I'll preorder that in a heartbeat. |
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bryantcheramie Alopex
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Just got mine today. The filter has a surprising amount of sweet spots. 9.5/10 _________________ http://www.soundcloud.com/alopex |
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