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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I was thinking of starting a new thread but...

2012 marks the 30th anniversary of New Order's track 5-8-6

I always liked the instrumental more. ;-)

And even better is 'Video 5-8-6' and 'Prime 5-8-6'

(I always loved how new order had different versions of songs. I think I have over 10 officially released versions of Fine Time.)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

For New Order I only really like the first album Movement, it sounds closer to Joy Division than their later stuff and Martin Hannet (a fifth band member in my opinion) was still with them. But I do also like some of the singles such as Ceremony, Blue Monday, Everythings Gone Green, Regret and True Faith.

I love a lot of late seventies and eighties pop, rock and new wave music. I still listen to these artists regularly:

Icehouse, Eurythmics, Sisters Of Mercy, Dire Straits, Blondie, Yello, The Police & Sting, The Blue Nile, The Cars & Ric Ocasek, Divinyls, Peter Gabriel, The Replacements, Enya, Clannad, Robert Plant's The Principle Of Moments, Simple Minds, Bryan Ferry & Roxy Music, Birthday Party & Nick Cave, Belinda Carlisle, Pink Floyd, Billy Idol, Talk Talk, Bauhaus, Alison Moyet, Clock DVA, Tears For Fears, Midnight Oil, Frankie Goes To Hollywood, Tackhead, Spandau Ballet, Art Of Noise, Dragon, Talking Heads, Pink Floyd, Pet Shop Boys, Shona Laing, Genesis & Phil Collins, Human League, Fields Of The Nephilim, David Bowie, Kim Carnes, Tina Turner's Private Dancer, This Mortal Coil, Cindytalk, Breathless, Bourbonese Qualk, Bruce Springsteen, Jon & Vangelis... a huge list of stuff.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Also agree that 24 Hour Party People is a great movie. I haven't seen Control yet but I will get around to watching it one of these days.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

For fans of early New Order I strongly recommend the compilation The John Peel Sessions. It contains different recordings of early tracks and some exclusive material from 1981 and 1982. Recording quality and production is excellent, also the arrangements and instrumentation are substantially different from the official album versions.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

tokyocat wrote:
Also agree that 24 Hour Party People is a great movie. I haven't seen Control yet but I will get around to watching it one of these days.


"Control" is a very good movie, and the choice of its director, Anton Corbijn, to use black & white film was absolutely right.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

tokyocat wrote:
For New Order I only really like the first album Movement, it sounds closer to Joy Division than their later stuff and Martin Hannet (a fifth band member in my opinion) was still with them. But I do also like some of the singles such as Ceremony, Blue Monday, Everythings Gone Green, Regret and True Faith.


For me “Movement” and “1981 – Factus 8 – 1982” are by far the best New Order releases; the former for its echos of Joy Division, and the latter owing to the songwriting and relatively rough production, before the group became slicker and polished. “Low-Life” was the last entirely satisfying release for me, but I’ve had the notion lately to play my original cassette version of “Brotherhood” for the first time in many years to see if it holds up well enough now to pick up the CD.

The last time I listened to “Power, Corruption & Lies” I was reminded of the band’s often weakest trait to me: their lyrics. But to be fair, for many years now I’ve been increasingly dissatisfied with music containing any vocals at all.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I love all this stuff. PC&Lies is easily on my favorite 12 albums ever.

I am still trying to find a competent vocalist/guitarist to do Depeche, New Order, OMD, etc stuff with. A long-time dream :-)

Drew

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

ringstone wrote:
A few years ago I went and bought up CD re-issues of a lot of the "pop" albums I liked years ago. I drive a lot as part of my job and this sort of stuff gets you less weird looks when you are blasting it out around town lol

Anyway, here's a selection:

New Order - Movement, Power, Corruption and Lies
The Cure - Seventeen Seconds, Faith, Pornography
Simple Minds - Sons and Fascination, Sister Feelings Call (daggy I know but I love Steve Hillage's production on these. It was a short step from there to Krautrock when I was a teenager!)
Echo and the Bunnymen - Porcupine
OMD - Organisation, Architechture and Morality
The Human League - Reproduction, Travelogue

and many others. Probably part of my mid-life crisis kicked off by my partner buying me a box set of alternative 80's music as a present.

I have been listening to 80's pop/rock stalwarts such as Joy Division, Cabaret Voltaire, and Wire since I first heard them too... they all bring back lots of great memories!

Cheers
Blair

EDIT: + Soft Cell, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Fad Gadget, The The... list could go on!


Yep, I still enjoy listening to all the stuff you mentioned - nothing cheesy about those Simple Minds albums though smile (Empires & Dance is a classic too).
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Still have my ticket to see Joy Division at the market Street Cinema in SF, too bad they had to cancel the show...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

solitaryzen wrote:
ringstone wrote:
A few years ago I went and bought up CD re-issues of a lot of the "pop" albums I liked years ago. I drive a lot as part of my job and this sort of stuff gets you less weird looks when you are blasting it out around town lol

Anyway, here's a selection:

New Order - Movement, Power, Corruption and Lies
The Cure - Seventeen Seconds, Faith, Pornography
Simple Minds - Sons and Fascination, Sister Feelings Call (daggy I know but I love Steve Hillage's production on these. It was a short step from there to Krautrock when I was a teenager!)
Echo and the Bunnymen - Porcupine
OMD - Organisation, Architechture and Morality
The Human League - Reproduction, Travelogue

and many others. Probably part of my mid-life crisis kicked off by my partner buying me a box set of alternative 80's music as a present.

I have been listening to 80's pop/rock stalwarts such as Joy Division, Cabaret Voltaire, and Wire since I first heard them too... they all bring back lots of great memories!

Cheers
Blair

EDIT: + Soft Cell, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Fad Gadget, The The... list could go on!


Yep, I still enjoy listening to all the stuff you mentioned - nothing cheesy about those Simple Minds albums though smile (Empires & Dance is a classic too).


Whew, thought I might have blown my street cred lol As a band they seem to be more pigeonholed by their later, more popular material, but that's true of a lot of groups I guess...

Those 2 albums almost feel sequencer-driven at times, and the drumming style is quite obviously influenced by Neu! In hindsight, Empires and Dance probably is Kraftwerk-inspired, having (from memory) a lot more electronics-based tracks.

Cheers
Blair

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Yeah, definite Kraftwerk influence on Empires & Dance (this album is also quite reminiscent of the first two Human League albums, and was produced by John Leckie who did the awesome re-recording of Being Boiled the same year).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Just watched Conttrol again today...its a great film
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

ian curtis' pain is in his songs. i lost my baby brother the same way and it's a pain i don't want to feel again.

Viva the artistic expression of pain versus the sad hopeless feeling that can be and the drowning. Can't believe it was so long ago.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

sorry to hear that Decaying SIne.
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