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I'd love to see an eurorack mixer
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Clockgate wrote:
Something like this maybe? Dead Banana



Well it says Eurorack right on it, score! hihi


REwire wrote:
BTW, I'm curious by your subject line which says "..An Euro" which to me is gramattically incorrect unless you pronounce Euro like "Arrow" rather than like "Your row"


I'm curious why you feel the need to correct the grammar of a person who does not speak English as their native language.

Please tell us how you'd say it in Dutch. seriously, i just don't get it

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'm thinking about the 4ms VCA matrix.....could be what you want Dennis.
You can chain them and their highly playable.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

While we're on this subject, is there anything approaching a channel strip module?

Something like a Pittsburgh Outs but with a simple EQ section?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I think about a VCA Matrix just about every day.

I keep congratulating myself on not having module lust, but in reality, it's there. Sort of like an alcoholic who congratulates himself on keeping his habit under control by drinking a few beers every night.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

parasitk wrote:
REwire wrote:
BTW, I'm curious by your subject line which says "..An Euro" which to me is gramattically incorrect unless you pronounce Euro like "Arrow" rather than like "Your row"


I'm curious why you feel the need to correct the grammar of a person who does not speak English as their native language.

Please tell us how you'd say it in Dutch. seriously, i just don't get it


I'm sorry if I said it was "incorrect". It merely made me wonder how Eurorack is said in different cultures. Here, "An...***" means that it is starts with a vowel sound which lead me to believe it may be said differently elsewhere.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I can't think of any mixer feature that isn't already available in Euro.

If you only want to use this hypothetical mixer for audio and you don't care about voltage control or taking up lots of rack space, why not just buy an external rackmountable mixer and put it in a separate case or get a big case that can accommodate an external mixer and your Eurorack. Don't like 1/4" jacks? Make or pay someone to make a format jumbleresque unit and mount it in your case.

For what you want, the only advantages I can see of doing this in Euro are customization and expandability, but your stated desires are fairly standard and there is so much variety in non-Euro rack-mountable mixers these days that you could just get a different mixer if these desires change. You're probably going to get a much higher quality unit for the money if you don't try to build this in Euro as well. Am I missing something here?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

ersatzplanet wrote:
This question comes up often. I happen to be sitting on a ton of Pots and have thought of making a mixer. The big question that I have is would a non-CV controlled mixer be enough? I was thinking of a modular mixer - input channel sections that could be chained for expansion (4-channel blocks) and separate output blocks. That way you could make it as big as you want. different output blocks would have different features (LED meters, limiters, slide pots, headphone monitors etc.).
I know everyone really wants CV control of everything but If you want to keep the cost down and still offer a good sound it is better to leave the CV out. Maybe one of the variations of input channel blocks could have CV control but it would cost more to have it.
I myself have rarely wanted an in-cabinet mixer. I have plenty of outboard ones that have great EQ (which is more helpful than many think) effects, and multiple Aux sends etc. Any mixer in cabinet will take up lots of HP. Think of the space needed for a Sequencer and you are close.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

mono-poly wrote:

Sounds good to me.
I don't need cv control.


Dennis,

Genuinely interested to know, if you don't need CV control, why you want this stuff in a module and taking up space in the case rather than using a stand-alone mixer? What's it going to give you that you can't get far more cheaply with a dedicated mixer?

I thought you had a little notepad mixer as part of your live setup?

REwire wrote:
BTW, I'm curious by your subject line which says "..An Euro" which to me is gramattically incorrect unless you pronounce Euro like "Arrow" rather than like "Your row"


There's only one "t" in grammatically. sad banana
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Umcorps wrote:
mono-poly wrote:

Sounds good to me.
I don't need cv control.


Dennis,

Genuinely interested to know, if you don't need CV control, why you want this stuff in a module and taking up space in the case rather than using a stand-alone mixer? What's it going to give you that you can't get far more cheaply with a dedicated mixer?


It really depends if you're mixing modules that are being sent to other modules. I mix 8 oscs with two Mutagens and with busses, send them to any of 6 filters. External mixers would be a pain in that regard. Also then mix the outputs of those filters with two MX-4S so I can pan them and then into a QMMG for a 2 channel mixdown. It's after that that an outboard mixer becomes useful as I then can send to many outboard effects.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

REwire wrote:
BTW, I'm curious by your subject line which says "..An Euro" which to me is gramattically incorrect unless you pronounce Euro like "Arrow" rather than like "Your row"


As a German-speaker I can say that 'Euro' is pronounced 'Oy-roh' rather than 'Yer-oh' as we say in English. 'An' is approrpriate in front of the word given that pronunciation. I know Dennis isn't German, but I'd bet the explanation is the same. thumbs up

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Myself and decadesbynight have been dreaming and scheming about this for a bit. It would be FANTASTIC to have an 8 channel VC Mixer with EQs, 2-4 Sends, etc, who cares if it is huge? Or maybe a master module and you can just add the channels to it?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

^ You have that with 2 VCA Matrix modules.

Then add a couple of these:

http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=50555

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

suboptimal wrote:

I keep congratulating myself on not having module lust, but in reality, it's there. Sort of like an alcoholic who congratulates himself on keeping his habit under control by drinking a few beers every night.


This is so true it hurts! Guinness ftw!











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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

mono-poly wrote:
Numan sure there are mixers but none offer what i want.

you mean with xformers and inductors?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

The idea is to have a system with no need for an external mixer.
Like the 200e.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Hainbach wrote:
Clockgate wrote:
Something like this maybe? Dead Banana



I would not let that near my modular.



I would not let that near my modular.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'd love something that has4 channels and an Aux Send/return with Mute/solo on each channel.

Gate controlled Mute/solo would be awesome It's peanut butter jelly time!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

would love to see something like a channel strip module + a master module so you can 'build' your own. 2 sends minimum!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Ideal would be like those analogue solutions ones.

Master module and chainable channel modules.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Is there any need for stereo mixer with cv (chanel level % paning), maybe with some aux buses and line level output.
how big it could be for you? price?

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