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Author Allen Strange, the greatest educational book ever written?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I found a 2e at my university's library! Indeed, it is an excellent book. Nothing like curling up in front of the modular, trying out his simple exercises ~to understand a simple concept, e.g. VCO/VCF tracking~ rather than going nuts and patching everything all at once!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

just getting caught up on this thread.

$900 for a copy and you can bet NONE of that is going to Alan Strange's family.
So, remind me where the moral high-ground is in BUYING a copy?

I too bought the Adobe Reader DRM crippled version of the document. What a steaming pile of shit Adobe Reader is. I cannot wait to see that company go down in flames.
FUCK ADOBE!

I just wanted a copy i could keep on my ipad with alot of other reference, and because it is actually a bitmap level scan it exported to a 350mb PDF (which is still adobe but at least a usable format.)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

if you were to google the title of the book and the short form of a certain portable document format you might find a link.

it seems reasonable that this is made available seeing as it's entirely out of print and used copies are extortionately expesnive.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

grapejuice wrote:
if you were to google the title of the book and the short form of a certain portable document format you might find a link.

it seems reasonable that this is made available seeing as it's entirely out of print and used copies are extortionately expesnive.


if one was to do this that one might find that that certain portable document is pretty low quality representation of that document formant.

plus reading document formant compared to books sucks ass

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...not to mention what you signed up for when you joined this site:

http://muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47217
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

infradead wrote:
grapejuice wrote:
if you were to google the title of the book and the short form of a certain portable document format you might find a link.

it seems reasonable that this is made available seeing as it's entirely out of print and used copies are extortionately expesnive.


if one was to do this that one might find that that certain portable document is pretty low quality representation of that document formant.

plus reading document formant compared to books sucks ass

AND

...not to mention what you signed up for when you joined this site:

http://muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47217


i'm sorryi did not read that upon sign-up. d'oh!

i've removed a direct link in another post. i can't possibly see there being a problem stating the fact that copies exist online and are easily findable.

it would be down right good business sense for the publisher (or copyright owner) to get a decent pdf up online for a reasonable price. i believe they ought to be able to get that going with a trip to a printing shop and a paypal account. don't hold your breath waiting for old-style media outlets to make pragmatic business decisions though eek!

until then there will be people who would greatly benefit from this information in there lives and can either pay extortionate prices to hoarders or get a not-quite perfect copy in an slightly inconvenient format for nothing. wonder how that's going to work out? Bananallama! Bananallama! Bananallama!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can argue the moral hoo-ha's as much as you like, this way or that, and you can do what you like via private message or email, but the fact of the matter is (for whatever reason), that the dissemination of links to copyrighted material on this public forum is not tolerated.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Christopher Winkels wrote:
infradead wrote:
i honestly think if we could figure out who owns the rights we could either get it released to public domain or at least sold again as an ebook


Or collectively we could buy the rights, set up a POD store through a third party company (Lulu or something similar), and direct the funds back into Muff's once the initial investment is paid back.


This book is going for ridiculous prices. $300+. You can't tell me you cant make a profit from a $300 book! I could photocopy a book with an inkjet printer a still make on a $300 book, and still pay royalties.

Where are the publishing rights?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

How would we go about buying the rights?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

So is the book copyrighted ?
The copies sold seem to be 30 years old....
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

peripatitis wrote:
So is the book copyrighted ?
The copies sold seem to be 30 years old....

I'm sure you'll find the answer in one of the 500 pages of this thread... confused
If I remember correctly, it is still under copyright, and people already asked about a new publication, without any success. waah
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I've contacted the publisher (which is apparently McGraw Hill, at the moment) through my university's MH sales rep; he's e-mailed the editor in charge of the rights to the latest softcover and PDF version and will let me know what's up once he finds out.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Great !

Please keep us informed ! hyper
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BTByrd wrote:
I've contacted the publisher (which is apparently McGraw Hill, at the moment) through my university's MH sales rep; he's e-mailed the editor in charge of the rights to the latest softcover and PDF version and will let me know what's up once he finds out.


If they're willing to sell the rights then I'll pony up the first $200 if anyone wants to form a consortium to obtain them.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Yeah i'm in for a hundred or two. I have the 2nd edition, but i'd be thrilled to help make it available for everyone who wants.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

What about a Kickstarter campaign to buy the rights and publish/e-publish a new edition?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I have a 2nd edition, which is still quite low quality in places. But would love to own a high quality copy both paper and e-book.

So happy to contribute.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

richard wrote:
...I think there is a huge gap in the market for a more comprehensive, "modern" text on modular synthesis. Shouldn't one of us be writing one?


I'm one of us.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, imagine something like the strange text, mixed with sos synth secrets, with nice modern layout and graphics, in hard cover. drool...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Count me in for a contribution!

I do like the idea of a Kickstarter / Indiegogo campaign though.


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