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Backroads Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| I found a 2e at my university's library! Indeed, it is an excellent book. Nothing like curling up in front of the modular, trying out his simple exercises ~to understand a simple concept, e.g. VCO/VCF tracking~ rather than going nuts and patching everything all at once! |
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chinard Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:10 am Post subject: |
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just getting caught up on this thread.
$900 for a copy and you can bet NONE of that is going to Alan Strange's family.
So, remind me where the moral high-ground is in BUYING a copy?
I too bought the Adobe Reader DRM crippled version of the document. What a steaming pile of shit Adobe Reader is. I cannot wait to see that company go down in flames.
FUCK ADOBE!
I just wanted a copy i could keep on my ipad with alot of other reference, and because it is actually a bitmap level scan it exported to a 350mb PDF (which is still adobe but at least a usable format.) |
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grapejuice Common Wiggler
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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if you were to google the title of the book and the short form of a certain portable document format you might find a link.
it seems reasonable that this is made available seeing as it's entirely out of print and used copies are extortionately expesnive. |
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infradead Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| grapejuice wrote: | if you were to google the title of the book and the short form of a certain portable document format you might find a link.
it seems reasonable that this is made available seeing as it's entirely out of print and used copies are extortionately expesnive. |
if one was to do this that one might find that that certain portable document is pretty low quality representation of that document formant.
plus reading document formant compared to books sucks ass _________________ Tacoma Noise Rodeo
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Babaluma Manual Gain Rider
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grapejuice Common Wiggler
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| infradead wrote: | | grapejuice wrote: | if you were to google the title of the book and the short form of a certain portable document format you might find a link.
it seems reasonable that this is made available seeing as it's entirely out of print and used copies are extortionately expesnive. |
if one was to do this that one might find that that certain portable document is pretty low quality representation of that document formant.
plus reading document formant compared to books sucks ass
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...not to mention what you signed up for when you joined this site:
http://muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47217
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i'm sorryi did not read that upon sign-up.
i've removed a direct link in another post. i can't possibly see there being a problem stating the fact that copies exist online and are easily findable.
it would be down right good business sense for the publisher (or copyright owner) to get a decent pdf up online for a reasonable price. i believe they ought to be able to get that going with a trip to a printing shop and a paypal account. don't hold your breath waiting for old-style media outlets to make pragmatic business decisions though
until then there will be people who would greatly benefit from this information in there lives and can either pay extortionate prices to hoarders or get a not-quite perfect copy in an slightly inconvenient format for nothing. wonder how that's going to work out?  |
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Babaluma Manual Gain Rider
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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you can argue the moral hoo-ha's as much as you like, this way or that, and you can do what you like via private message or email, but the fact of the matter is (for whatever reason), that the dissemination of links to copyrighted material on this public forum is not tolerated. _________________ Hermetech Mastering | Discogs | SoundCloud | Bandcamp | Facebook | Pathmusick |
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Drumdrumdrumdrum What she said
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| Christopher Winkels wrote: | | infradead wrote: | | i honestly think if we could figure out who owns the rights we could either get it released to public domain or at least sold again as an ebook |
Or collectively we could buy the rights, set up a POD store through a third party company (Lulu or something similar), and direct the funds back into Muff's once the initial investment is paid back. |
This book is going for ridiculous prices. $300+. You can't tell me you cant make a profit from a $300 book! I could photocopy a book with an inkjet printer a still make on a $300 book, and still pay royalties.
Where are the publishing rights? _________________ "Modular synths can take your ego out of the equation – which, in music, is a blessing" - Jeremy Greenspan
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vav Beer Master
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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How would we go about buying the rights? _________________ Vactrols are the electronic equivalent of being drunk. -decaying.sine |
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peripatitis Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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So is the book copyrighted ?
The copies sold seem to be 30 years old.... |
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komyta Ultra Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| peripatitis wrote: | So is the book copyrighted ?
The copies sold seem to be 30 years old.... |
I'm sure you'll find the answer in one of the 500 pages of this thread...
If I remember correctly, it is still under copyright, and people already asked about a new publication, without any success.  |
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BTByrd Wiggling with The Experience Machine
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| I've contacted the publisher (which is apparently McGraw Hill, at the moment) through my university's MH sales rep; he's e-mailed the editor in charge of the rights to the latest softcover and PDF version and will let me know what's up once he finds out. |
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komyta Ultra Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Great !
Please keep us informed !  |
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Christopher Winkels Lord of Tweed Manor
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| BTByrd wrote: | | I've contacted the publisher (which is apparently McGraw Hill, at the moment) through my university's MH sales rep; he's e-mailed the editor in charge of the rights to the latest softcover and PDF version and will let me know what's up once he finds out. |
If they're willing to sell the rights then I'll pony up the first $200 if anyone wants to form a consortium to obtain them. |
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vav Beer Master
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah i'm in for a hundred or two. I have the 2nd edition, but i'd be thrilled to help make it available for everyone who wants. _________________ Vactrols are the electronic equivalent of being drunk. -decaying.sine |
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Bendu The most common wiggler ever
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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What about a Kickstarter campaign to buy the rights and publish/e-publish a new edition? _________________ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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a100user All the gear, no idea!
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:54 am Post subject: |
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I have a 2nd edition, which is still quite low quality in places. But would love to own a high quality copy both paper and e-book.
So happy to contribute. _________________ http://a100usersplace.blogspot.com/ |
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russma Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| richard wrote: | | ...I think there is a huge gap in the market for a more comprehensive, "modern" text on modular synthesis. Shouldn't one of us be writing one? |
I'm one of us. _________________ Russ M. |
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Reality Checkpoint Confused By Electricity
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Count me in for a contribution!
I do like the idea of a Kickstarter / Indiegogo campaign though.
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