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Rudy D.
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Just checked the fsh-1 - very pricey - is this module "worth" the price - any alternatives - anyone uses the rg6 - appraisals are very welcome .
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Thank you - i already checked this - i'm just curious of what you guys think about the fsh-1 - experience, usage... black forest  |
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Seems you hang out in Grunewald, Tegeler Forst or Buch - hahha - dark Nadelholz... btw. did you ever got your hands on a rg6? |
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FSH1 seems to be worth its price- I know richard used one and liked it... Id like to try one.
I use an encore frequency shifter, which is an analogue shifter modulated by digital sines. I like it a lot, though I have read complaints about it in the past and I had build issues with mine.
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hey mr. tibbs
concerning the the encore fs i just watched a vid on youtube - liked how the module influences the input signal by changing its feedback amounts - crazy resonating possibilities - cool... looks nice and is half the price... mhhh interesting... 
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| anyone who had the encore as well as the fsh-1 side by side? |
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This be the complaint:
| Babaluma wrote: | yeah, i had the encore one for a couple of years, but the resolution at extremely low shifts (where i liked to use it 99.999% of the time), was really poor, so i sold it to monopoly, who found the same thing i think, so he passed it on too!
sound and features were great though. i've tried three digital plugin frequency shifters (built in one in audiomulch, ohmforce hematohm, and valhalla freq echo), and none of them sound the same (or as good) as the encore did. it was SUUUUUUUPER wide and trippy in stereo. |
I think that means there is very little play in the knob around the slow settings (ie you have a very small ammount of movement before it gets fast again). I agree, though you can easily work around it buy sending it an attenuated voltage from elsewhere. I like mine a lot, used it earlier on this:
[s]http://soundcloud.com/tib/analogue-purity[/s]
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| tIB wrote: | This be the complaint:
| Babaluma wrote: | yeah, i had the encore one for a couple of years, but the resolution at extremely low shifts (where i liked to use it 99.999% of the time), was really poor, so i sold it to monopoly, who found the same thing i think, so he passed it on too!
sound and features were great though. i've tried three digital plugin frequency shifters (built in one in audiomulch, ohmforce hematohm, and valhalla freq echo), and none of them sound the same (or as good) as the encore did. it was SUUUUUUUPER wide and trippy in stereo. |
I think that means there is very little play in the knob around the slow settings (ie you have a very small ammount of movement before it gets fast again). I agree, though you can easily work around it buy sending it an attenuated voltage from elsewhere. I like mine a lot, used it earlier on this:
[s]http://soundcloud.com/tib/analogue-purity[/s] |
spookey low drifts...cool.... |
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| i have an fsh-1 for sale or trade if anyone is interested |
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| lionelfischer wrote: | | i have an fsh-1 for sale or trade if anyone is interested |
got to think about - I also fancy with another toy at the moment - so i just need a week or so to sort things out... thanks
so how do you like the fsh-1 and with what you're going to replace it? |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: fsh-1 worth it's price? / everyone uses the rg6? |
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| Rudy D. wrote: | Just checked the fsh-1 - very pricey - is this module "worth" the price - any alternatives - anyone uses the rg6 - appraisals are very welcome .
thanks everyone - rudy |
RG-6 is the bomb... it's the centre of my setup, I know a few others that feel the same, quite underrated module, partly due to the lack of manual I suspect. |
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| Rudy D. wrote: | | lionelfischer wrote: | | i have an fsh-1 for sale or trade if anyone is interested |
got to think about - I also fancy with another toy at the moment - so i just need a week or so to sort things out... thanks
so how do you like the fsh-1 and with what you're going to replace it? |
thought it was amazing but i dont think ill be replacing it. i'm selling everything in my current setup (lots of cwejman and plan b), and going in a whole new direction. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:47 am Post subject: Re: fsh-1 worth it's price? / everyone uses the rg6? |
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| msh wrote: | | Rudy D. wrote: | Just checked the fsh-1 - very pricey - is this module "worth" the price - any alternatives - anyone uses the rg6 - appraisals are very welcome .
thanks everyone - rudy |
RG-6 is the bomb... it's the centre of my setup, I know a few others that feel the same, quite underrated module, partly due to the lack of manual I suspect. |
Exactly what i wanted to hear - i love random generators - so maybe i get myself a rg6 and 2 Doepfer 156's... mhhh yummi |
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Yes, RG-6 gets used in almost every patch, some examples of use: S&H-type LFO, but with fine control over parameters. Random gate generator. Pseudo "digital" style noise source. Introducing random probability into a stepped sequence... etc etc. I've considered getting another one!
Cheers
Blair
EDIT: BTW - Clock source is syncable to external clock, which is actually more useful than plain clock in - you can push the clock rate "over" the external clock (with external CV if desired) which means that you get a "ratcheting" type effect if setup correctly... I had to ask Wowa about the clock sync because I couldn't get it to work reliably at first, then the penny dropped!
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| +1 for the RG-6, great module |
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I just can not justify any of the prices on Cwejman gear. I look and look at them. I lust after a DMF-2, MMF-1, VCO-6, ADSR-VC2, D-LFO, RES-4 and an MX-4S, but when I add it up I could build a 4 voice poly modular in another brand for the same price. What....do Cwejman run on nuclear power or something?
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starting a separate thread...
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The Doepfer A187-1 has a pitch shifter in it as well. Examples 4 and 6 on the AH web site have demos of it, including use on a vocal signal.
I dunno why this module hasn't received more love.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:53 am Post subject: |
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love my FSH-1 
so many insane textures can be had by even putting the simplest waveform through it then use oct/v keyboard to 'play' it.
RG6? i know next to nothing about this.. I wish there were a manual i could read to see what its all about.
looks promising.
as far as cost justification, all i can say is that its all relative and you get what you pay for. (well for most cwejman modules that is.. i still think the ATT-4 is beyond stupid with that price tag)
The build quality and sound of these things is probably the best available in euro. At least the best that i've come across.
And expensive? Yeah, its a bit more expensive than its euro cousins but if you compare it to serge or buchla? like i said.. its all relative. |
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| ringstone wrote: | Yes, RG-6 gets used in almost every patch, some examples of use: S&H-type LFO, but with fine control over parameters. Random gate generator. Pseudo "digital" style noise source. Introducing random probability into a stepped sequence... etc etc. I've considered getting another one!
Cheers
Blair
EDIT: BTW - Clock source is syncable to external clock, which is actually more useful than plain clock in - you can push the clock rate "over" the external clock (with external CV if desired) which means that you get a "ratcheting" type effect if setup correctly... I had to ask Wowa about the clock sync because I couldn't get it to work reliably at first, then the penny dropped! |
Thank you for your explanation - it think this is the next tool i going to buy - recently i just watched my modular and memorized that i have to buy more modulation sources instead of getting other soundgenerators - as an example if i use the res 4 in full config i consume 2x a-149, 2x LFO, 2x a-156 and some attenuators - or even more - not for every patch i using everything in my setup but i like the way how everything interacts when modulating a lot (getting soundgenerators to its limit...) so more mod sources for me at this point - thanx rudy |
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| chinard wrote: | l
as far as cost justification, all i can say is that its all relative and you get what you pay for. |
Agreed - as a matter of fact, and what i can say from my point of view - the rather expensive modules getting love from me - not that doepfer or anything less expensive is not worth buying it - it's the same with pro recording gear (the step from 500 to 2500 doller gear is huge - the step from 2500 to 6000 dollers isn't that huge) - not everything expensive is better but when it comes to audio gear it's a fact - if the music sounds good i'm really not interested in how someones produced even he did it with the cheapest setup - just my thoughts... |
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| Rudy D. wrote: | | chinard wrote: | l
as far as cost justification, all i can say is that its all relative and you get what you pay for. |
Agreed - as a matter of fact, and what i can say from my point of view - the rather expensive modules getting love from me - not that doepfer or anything less expensive is not worth buying it - it's the same with pro recording gear (the step from 500 to 2500 doller gear is huge - the step from 2500 to 6000 dollers isn't that huge) - not everything expensive is better but when it comes to audio gear it's a fact - if the music sounds good i'm really not interested in how someones produced even he did it with the cheapest setup - just my thoughts... |
i mean music is the point NOT gear!!! |
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