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mono-poly Le Cheff
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:47 am Post subject: |
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I'd love that but tbh cv control is not necesary for me. _________________ WTB Buchla 100 modules
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tIB Stainer!
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Here's my euro mixer/amp/attenuator panel... just completed due to a nice freebie unity mixer from kind mr baldwin.
FxCam_1330284077894.jpg by sonofprent, on Flickr
Its basically 8 amplifiers, 8 attenuators, dual 3-1 (or 6-1) mixer, and 4 (dirty) VCA's for CV control... oh, and a spring reverb which isnt really a part of this but had no other room for.
The big I/O module was from soysos, a DIY build from a Pittsburgh guy, sounds great and the little unity mixer has turned it into another kind of beastie all together. Good stuffs!  _________________ Listen
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John Noble Pining for the fjords
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Repeater wrote: | | I can't think of any mixer feature that isn't already available in Euro. |
Here are some features of my Mackie 802-VLZ3 I use all the time that would be cumbersome to patch up in the synth:
- Post fade aux send. Prefade is easier, think about it.
- Prefade Solo with level metering.
- Stereo channel balance.
- Balanced outputs so only the right hum gets to the amp(s). |
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mono-poly Le Cheff
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Balanced outs is kinda overated imo.
Only needed for long distance. _________________ WTB Buchla 100 modules
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chvad Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Repeater Phantom Powers
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| John Noble wrote: | | Repeater wrote: | | I can't think of any mixer feature that isn't already available in Euro. |
Here are some features of my Mackie 802-VLZ3 I use all the time that would be cumbersome to patch up in the synth:
- Post fade aux send. Prefade is easier, think about it.
- Prefade Solo with level metering.
- Stereo channel balance.
- Balanced outputs so only the right hum gets to the amp(s). |
Independently any of those features except Prefade Solo with level metering could be obtained with a few cables and 1-3 existing module(s). Replicating that Mackie in Euro would be complicated, yet possible. The rest of my post makes it pretty clear that I don't think it's a reasonable thing to do. _________________ Repeater Electronics:
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John Noble Pining for the fjords
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Repeater wrote: | | Replicating that Mackie in Euro would be complicated, yet possible. |
"Replicating" includes at least getting in the same ergonomic ballpark IMO, so I don't think it could be done even if the modular lash-up had the same "features" on paper.
| Quote: | | The rest of my post makes it pretty clear that I don't think it's a reasonable thing to do. |
I was merely providing more examples of why it doesn't make sense.  |
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Cable Common Wiggler
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Know there are analogue solutions modules for making a mixer with multiple modules..or are those no more? |
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John Noble Pining for the fjords
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Cable wrote: | | Know there are analogue solutions modules for making a mixer with multiple modules..or are those no more? |
I forgot about those:
   
39 UKP for input strips and 69 UKP for the master (plus VAT on both). Maybe $350 for a 4-channel mixer.
It's goofy that the right & left master is on separate pots, but that's a bona fide stereo mixer with an aux send.  |
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Veqtor Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Stereo mixer or Quadraphonic mixer even, with cv over just pan/position would be really cool. CV level feels like overkill, but well... if it's easy to add if you're already doing cv pan then why not.
A modular mixer like the asol one pictured above would be cool, esp if every channel would have a slider for volume and routings. Also fx sends (with cv). A super modular solution like this would be awesome. Something like the SSL x-rack modules. Maybe one could base it around 4hp small modules, a basic channel would just have level and pan, it could then be expanded with an eq and simple compressor (on the back there'd be connectors to route the signal through the expander). The master section could be expanded with balanced outs etc. _________________ http://veqtor.bandcamp.com
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ersatzplanet Synthwerks Design
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:59 am Post subject: |
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The most knobs you can comfortably place vertically on a Euro panel is 5 (unless you stagger them to get only 1 more at the cost of HP). That would make 3 AUX sends, one Pan, and One level or 1 Aux send, 2 EQ (low and hi), one pan and one level. Another option would be to have the EQ and maybe something else (like a compressor) on another panel so you would have the 3Aux, Pan, and Level panels for most of the mixer and a few EQ panels for the channels you want them for. The add-on side panels could also provide CV for the main panels or Mic Preamps or other options that you may not need on all input strips. That way you could grow the system as rot want with the cash you had. Start with a bunch of the 3A1P1L panels and add the EQ or others as you need. The EQ/Compressor type panel, or CV control panel could be designed to also connect to the Master panel so those effects could be added to all channels globally. The truly modular mixer.
The final full mixer would cost quite a bit more than a decent small Mackie or other brand mixer though. It would be cheaper to add VCAs to the channel inserts of a standard mixer.
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Drumdrumdrumdrum What she said
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder what the revised Mutagen will be like  _________________ "Modular synths can take your ego out of the equation – which, in music, is a blessing" - Jeremy Greenspan
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Soy Sos Dub Surgeon
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