Muff's Modules & More

chrisso · Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:10 am Post subject: Logic and ES4

Coupla things.
Using the iMac audio out.
I can see the reddish light getting to my coaxial converter. It's lit all the time.
But if I quit Logic for some reason, the SPDIF light goes out on the ES4. If I relaunch Logic, the light remains out. Also if I run my track. Silent Way is sending the data, but the ES4 wont respond.
If I turn off my Eurorack, then turn it back on, the ES4 SPDIF light comes on and everything starts to work.
A bit annoying having to turn off my Eurorack every time I leave Logic.
Secondly.....
Any way to send clock to a sequencer module, and sync the tempo to my song, hopefully start and stop too?

os · Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:46 am Post subject:

Not sure about the Logic thing. The Mac's built-in output seems to come & go for reasons I don't yet understand.

But for the clock, use the Silent Way LFO plug-in.

Or if you happen to want 24 or 48ppqn, use the DINsync output of the ES-4 Controller.

Kirk Degiorgio · Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:16 am Post subject:

apemandan · Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:22 am Post subject:

chrisso · Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:44 am Post subject:

Haven't been able to get any of the above to work in Logic so far.
getting the SW LFO to stop start with my song in LOgic is as easy as selecting 'transport' in the sync menu of SW LFO isn't it?
I've done that, and the LFO still free runs.
Also, there are often strange skips or timing inconsistencies when outputting to Intellijel uStep and MN Rene.
Do you need to have SW LFO followed by Voice Controller on each virtual tracjk, or just LFO on it's own?
In Logic you only get to choose one virtual instruemnt per track. I've tried installing SW LFO and or VC in the fx inserts on the track, but they don't seem to do anything from up there.
The best results I've had so far is clocking Rene from the Voice Controller, with 16th notes painted into the virtual instrument track Silent Way is installed on. Then it's tight and stops and starts with the song.

os · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:18 am Post subject:

chrisso · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:33 am Post subject:

Being new to Silent Way I should say I've found the Multi Output Voice Controller in ES4 mode more intuitive than the beta ES4 controller.
Getting great results with the voice controller for standard midi style playing of cv and gate synths.
Haven't been able to get any of the most talked about clock functions to work as I'd like.
LFO is just a distraction when it runs without stopping.
Rene is pretty tight when clocked by triggers I've written into my song (via the voice controller and ES4).
So a dedicated clock plug-in that was as easy to use as the Voice Controller would be a welcome addition to the tool kit.
thumbs up

apemandan · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:09 am Post subject:

Kirk Degiorgio · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:11 pm Post subject:

me too.

Gripp · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:02 pm Post subject:

chrisso · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:34 pm Post subject:

I would only need a simple clock plug-in.
Start and stop with the DAW transport.
Clock with selectable speed (4,8, 16, 32 etc).
Output options: either outs 3 to 5 on the ES4, or to Gate Expander module.
A 0-5v pulse to a second selectable output for sequencer reset.
I guess you could include analog clock or dinsync options. I don't have an old drum machine personally.
That's about it off the top of my head.

Kirk Degiorgio · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:57 pm Post subject:

os · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:17 pm Post subject:

On it.

chrisso · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:08 pm Post subject:

Nice one Andrew.
Having fun with the ES4 and SW Voice Controller (multi out) in ES4 mode.
And the set up video was key to me getting it up and running so quickly.
thumbs up

artisokka · Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:00 pm Post subject:

os · Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:11 am Post subject:

It was released a couple of weeks ago.

actionmusic2 · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:58 am Post subject:

I've taken a leap over to Logic 9.1.6 and wondered if anyone can confirm they've had success with the ES4 midi (and cv) in 64bit mode Logic running SW under the 32 bit bridge on Lion 10.7.2?

I'm just trying to troubleshoot my system, all good with 32 bit Logic, same setup and OS, all working as it should but reopen the same session, or create a new one when it's in 64 bit mode and i'm getting odd results - no cv/midi or unexpected outputs from the es4 not corresponding to the selected output on the plug.

Now running 64 i/o on a HDX card which also throws another spanner in the works!

os · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:36 pm Post subject:

Quite likely the bit bridge is confusing things. I'll run some tests tomorrow.

64 bit Silent Way is coming soon, never fear.

actionmusic2 · Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:07 pm Post subject:

we can always count on Os. looking forward to it…

In case people haven't tried this or maybe i've missed this elsewhere - for those using Logic have found a quick setup for instant gratification (with es4's in this instance) is to set up an instrument track, activate the ES4 controller plug as the instrument and setup the plug for your midi or CV choice. Leave the channel output routed to stereo out of your audio monitor channel rather than the output that goes to the ES4.

Then in the effects inserts add the I/O utility plug routing the output to the ES4 output channel and select the interface audio input of the SW controlled synth . If you're using a mono output synth place the gain plugin after the I/O plug and set to mono, and use the balance control to "select" the L or R input of the pair. Save the whole thing as a channel strip setting and you have quick access to a single channel that is already routed to the ES4, controls the plug and allows you to monitor the synth back in.

Control click the output channel "master" of the ES4 output on the mixer and it solo safe's meaning when you solo the channel you can hear the synth solo'ed in your session, as without this it seems to mute the ES4. Either bounce realtime or setup another audio channel with the synth audio input to record. love it.

os · Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:27 am Post subject:

I just tried 64 bit Logic, and I can't for the life of me get the ES-4 Controller to work at all. The other SW plug-ins work fine, but not the ES-4 Controller, under the 32 bit bridge. Baffling. Do you really really need this to work, or can you stick to 32 bit for now?

actionmusic2 · Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:30 am Post subject:

it's the only plug stopping me from working fully in 64 bit mode, but in the words of Gloria Gaynor ..."I will survive". I'm sure I can personally wait til the next major revision unless something obvious strikes you to get it up and running. cheers

os · Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:31 am Post subject:

You can be the first beta tester of the 64 bit version then!

actionmusic2 · Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:32 am Post subject:

whooo!