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sunsinger
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Has anyone ever tried to create, engineer, and mix music, to purposefully induce altered conscious states? As though one were having psychotropic experience simply by listening to the music without altering substances?
I have done this successfully several times. Anyone else?
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radiokoala
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| sunsinger wrote: | Has anyone ever tried to create, engineer, and mix music, to purposefully induce altered conscious states? As though one were having psychotropic experience simply by listening to the music without altering substances?
I have done this successfully several times. Anyone else? |
A friend of mine has been making statements that listening to my music often alters his perception - as if he had just smoked a pot, all while he hadn't. I have similar symptoms - composing music usually gets me high, and the more I am involved in a process, more high it gets. (Here we measure involvement in linear time, albeit the subtler criteria may be applied as well.)
Having said that, all of this might have more to do with a flashback phenomenon than an artistic intention, but it's not the point. BTW, I don't do any drugs (alcohol and tobacco included) - I'm perfectly fine with an ability of my brain to produce cannabinoids in exchange for my devotion to music 
PS. These are really nice drawings on your page.  You must've got some love for Kandinsky, have you?
PPS. I noticed that the first track on your soundcloud is 6:27 long, and by my local time, this post's been made at 6:27 PM. I could've avoided mentioning this fun display of synchronicity, but I find it to be quite amazing (mainly music), so let it be - it adds another shade of meaning to my appreciation.
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| My style hasn't quite changed (yet), but I'm pretty certain that once I finally get my hands on a power supply (and a few more key modules, lol) I'll be exploring a lot more things than I have previously. |
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| Quote: | | Having said that, all of this might have more to do with a flashback phenomenon than an artistic intention, but it's not the point. BTW, I don't do any drugs (alcohol and tobacco included) - I'm perfectly fine with an ability of my brain to produce cannabinoids in exchange for my devotion to music |
@ Radiokola
I was involved making an album with some friends of mine. I went out in the feild and made some very nice binaural recordings of three Native American Ceremonies.
I participated in a Peyote Ceremony, an Ayahuasca Ceremony, and Sundance Ceremony. Made recordings of each.
I did it with the intentions of bring these 3 visionary ceremonies back to the studio.
I wanted to re-create the visionary or psychotropic nature of each of these in the studio.
My two friends and I worked hard to preserve the integrity of each while blending our own impressions of electronic music.
The result was "KIVA" with Micheal Stearns and Steve Roach.
The album got lots of critical reviews, each extolling the nature of the CD's ability to bring one into a hallucinigenic landscape.
Kiva has become an underground classic with journeying folks everywhere.
The sketches are from Joe Slusky, a good pal and steel sculptor. His site link is on the bottom of my page. Thanks!
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radiokoala
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sunsinger
Parallel to reading your post I opened a website to listen to some music, and here is what I saw in my subscriptions:
Here's 16 tracks that can make any day feel a little closer to a peyote trip. Featuring Hush Arbors, Bob Bannister, Lichens and many others.
Now, isn't that fun?! Turns out to be you are by all means not alone with an idea having psychotropic experience simply by listening to the music without altering substances! 
(Here is this mix if it's of interest to you, btw.)
Now I'm ending listening to North Kiva track - at the end there are sounds resembling didgeridoo. My friends are making music which is quite similar - they are into primordial/ritual type of music, and that part reminded me of what they do. (They have a didgeridoo as an integral part of their sound, too.)
I see that North Kiva is an improv, I'll give those three other recordings (of actual ceremonies) listen soon. Overall an interesting subject, that!
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| Babaluma wrote: | | Would love to hear Kiva, Ron, any chance of a lossless download instead of just mp3? Would be happy to pay you for it. |
Unfortunately... and this is for all who sign with a record company. Not one of us have control over that album. "Hearts of Space", the record company who originally funded and released the CD, sold out sometime later to Valley Entertainment. Valley would have to give control back to us, if all three artists requested it and met certain conditions.
I was always bummed about this because I felt that HOS records did an injustice to Kiva in promotion. It never got a chance to reach a wider audience.
Two of us wanted Kiva back, so we could promote it betterer. Not happening!
So I can't release any recordings of it legally. I think that it would be nice if Valley would release a better quality digital download with the artwork. But it seems that the focus is on selling the CD. Some folks are a bit behind the curve.
Kiva is definitely an audiophile experience. Stearns mixed it on his 2"-24 track Sony Mitsubishi Dolby SR machine. Much is lost in MP3.
@radiokola This links sound cool. I'd like to hear someone else doing it too. I'll check that out for sure.
North Kiva was an improv and that's Steve playing an 8' didge. It's a different kind of ceremony. Call it "three white guys with no culturally native roots or direction, gathered together in a cave and groovin with a pict".
The recording was done in a giant cave house built in Embudo, New Mexico. It was a really haunting place to record. Mark Rendleman did a phenomenal job of carving out the labyrinthine hallways and chambers by hand. Really interesting acoustics occurred by placing mics quite a distance down a hallway from the player.
I'm sorry, I seem to have jacked the thread a bit. I thought it would be an interesting topic. I find that my relationship with my modular synth has made making altered state inducing tracks easier and more fun than ever.
That's how the Modular changed me.
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Thanks for the explanation Ron, think we may have discussed it previously on here or FB. Looks like I'm just going to have order the CD! Big fan of Micheal and Steve too, so it certainly looks like a winner, add the entheogenic bent, and I'm there. 
All the best,
Gregg
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