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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:15 am Post subject:

what about the built-in converters?

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:45 am Post subject:

Luka wrote:

i was about to get rid of my zed420 until i started patching the EQs - they sounded so darn nice

Oh so you want it back then? poke

Kidding, it's been awesome, facilitated some wicked jams. Always been a fan of AH mixers meself, will be tracking down a replacement when you claim yours back Luke smile

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:37 am Post subject:

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:45 pm Post subject:

CF3 wrote:

PS. There's an epic 100+ page thread going on Gearslutz about the ZED R16. One of the A&H tech support guys is on there all the time answering questions.

I thought it was the designer himself that was answering a lot of the questions? Although it's odd, the new Allen&Heath website makes no mention of him on the ZED-R16's page. If I remember correctly, the guy who did the R16 is the same who designed the GS-R24, utilizing a LOT of feedback from the various forums, but GearSlutz especially.

I've wanted a ZED R16 for so bloody long, and hopefully will be picking one up in the near(ish) future - I love how A&H stuff sounds/feels!

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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:17 am Post subject:

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Yes, that would be Mike Griffin. R&D manager at A&H.

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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:37 am Post subject:

DT wrote:

what about the built-in converters?

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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:01 pm Post subject:

DT wrote:

what about the built-in converters?

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I'm not sure what you are asking? My ears aren't golden enough to tell you how the bits that come down the FW pipe compare the bits off of, say, a pair of Lavrys. It's 2012; the converters in this desk are more than competent and I haven't heard any artifacts so far. so...?

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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:49 pm Post subject:

i meant...compered to hardware which does ONLY conversion...let's say...apogee rosetta?

i was wondering about the quality of the ones into the zed...

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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:51 pm Post subject:

DT wrote:

i meant...compered to hardware which does ONLY conversion...let's say...apogee rosetta?

i was wondering about the quality of the ones into the zed...

The buzz over as gearslutz was very positive regarding the converters... but I think we all know that a dedicated converting unit with the letters 'apogee' on the front will be at least some amount better razz

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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:16 am Post subject:

The generally accepted thing with Firewire audio is to go for a card with a Texas Instruments chipset.

(That said my RME has worked fine with any FW port I've plugged it into).
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:05 pm Post subject:

Thinking about picking one up - how does it handle modular level signals? Would I need to put it through a DI box? Would be great if I could mix different modular outs using just the R16.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:08 pm Post subject:

a fuzzy beacon wrote:

Thinking about picking one up - how does it handle modular level signals? Would I need to put it through a DI box? Would be great if I could mix different modular outs using just the R16.

Well, probably you'll need an attenuator (or limiter) more than a DI box. This is one place where the 60mm throw of the main faders might be a disadvantage. But I pulled the outs of the Wiard to the board directly, full output of the Borg II with resonance cranked, and the inputs handled it fine (gain at minimum, EQ bypassed, didn't clip it).

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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:23 pm Post subject:

plord wrote:

Well, probably you'll need an attenuator (or limiter) more than a DI box. This is one place where the 60mm throw of the main faders might be a disadvantage.

Thank you for reply! thumbs up

That's exactly what I'm afraid of, not having enough headroom which will make using the 60mm faders more difficult. I wasn't sure if R16 alone would reduce gain enough without having to use other attenuators, and I would rather not spend HPs on attenuator modules (not to mention the freedom of using R16 to mix different out points from the modular!).

Reading through some of the DI threads on Production Techniques still not clear on whether a DI box would serve exactly as a clean attenuator with the added benefit of eliminating ground loops. Sounds like what I need to do is just try modular level signals once I get the R16 and then borrow a DI box and compare.

Curious how are you finding R16 now after a few days?
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject:

a fuzzy beacon wrote:

Thinking about picking one up - how does it handle modular level signals? Would I need to put it through a DI box? Would be great if I could mix different modular outs using just the R16.

It handles modular levels very well. The gain knob on each channel allows for an attenuation of 14db and up to 40db of boost on the line input.

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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject:

Thanks Ben! Looking forward to using that beast (PM'd smile

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