Muff's Modules & More

b3nsf · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:15 pm Post subject:

the API has a quality transformer, the Onyx doesn't... so that alone will make a tonal difference... the API will sound more vintage, but it also has a robust discreet opamp, so it will sound louder/cleaner/thicker than cranking the Onyx directly for the same volume...

The real truth is total transparency, which the API is not either, but its sound is well known, consumer mixers AIM to sound transparent, and indeed sound like that but rob you of a tiny amount of sound, null testing proves it, higher quality gear has less tonal robbing of your sound... you can null test equipment and have really transparent sound.. Most mastering equipment is like this.. example: http://www.dangerousmusic.com/liaison.html

transformers of course will not null out perfect because they add bass most of the time... (I've seen the gentle rolls on Carnhill for example)

If you didn't think about it and just record something amazing thru the Onyx and all of this talk is just crap! but if you are a super nerd, and wanna do like the big studios do, blah blah, really into clean sound, go into the API then into the soundcard, and use the mixer for mixing the multiple outs from the computer... thats is called summing, HELLO! It's motherfucking bacon yo

edit: for I'm not being a snob, I'm drunk and happy! and use M-audio!

MrBiggs · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:24 pm Post subject:

You misread my question. I wasn't asking if an Onyx mixer pramp was as good as an API 512c. A look at the price tags of each give me that answer, thanks.

I was asking whether their HiZ inputs negate the need for a DI box. Are HiZ inputs essentially the same thing as what a DI does?

b3nsf · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:35 pm Post subject:

Hey Mr Biggs,

first off, sorry, I shouldn't have written anything..... hihi

essentially yes, the Hi-z is the DI input on each of those boxes... carry on! Mr. Green

blue_lu · Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:25 am Post subject:

you can really easily diy a di box. google bo hansen di box.
cost is around 100 euros for a twochannel version with really nice haufe transformers, a little more with lundahl.

Babaluma · Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:09 am Post subject:

or jensen too! m bop!

hihi

m0rb1d · Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:46 pm Post subject:

Bath House · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:45 am Post subject:

Mostly out of curiosity, I'm about to record a shoot-out comparing several things:

going directly into the hi-Z input on my Mackie 1640i
going through a radial JDI into the mic input on the Mackie 1640i
going directly into the line-in on the Mackie 1640i
going into a Radial JDI, into a Focusrite ISA One's mic input, then into the Mackie 1640i
going directly into the Focusrite ISA One's DI input, then into the Mackie

I'm probably going to just use my Juno 6 to do this, as it's a complex enough sound throughout the frequency range to really highlight any differences.

b3nsf · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:43 pm Post subject:

Sounds like an awesome test!!! my only suggestion might be use a familiar piece of audio sample, like led zeppelin "black dog" and play it from your sound card, through the gear and back in... that way we can hear the what the sound card adds as well!!!!