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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

i am definitely interested!

why not in black though? i think that syntha looks more stunning that way!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Rod Serling Fan Club wrote:
Printed (photo anodized). It's the same process used by most euro manufacturers and by clarke on his panel offerings. So individual modules will look/fit just fine in a mixed eurorack setting.


I'm locked into using engraved panels, which I must admit, I do prefer and I'm happy I made that choice.
If I hadn't got any panels yet, I'd probably be interested in this run for financial reasons though. The prices seem very reasonable.

Might be worth making a thread over at Electro-Music if you haven't already.

I uploaded V1.1 of my VCF FPE file on page 1 of this thread.
Just made a small change.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Added screen shots and FPD files of my VCO A and VCF to the "Front Panel Proof Reading Thread" if anyone wants to take a look Guinness ftw!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Rod Serling Fan Club wrote:
frozenkore wrote:
I'm interested!

I can't see the first image, but just to clarify, you are looking to do individual module panels, not a complete system panel?


Indivdual panels. If you click on the link you can see PDF files for the panels that Dave designed.


Thanks, I guess I should pay attention better cool.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

numan7 wrote:
i am definitely interested!

why not in black though? i think that syntha looks more stunning that way!

cheers


This would mean going with Front Panel Express and getting the engraved panels. I don’t know what the cost savings would be ordering those in quantity but I imagine it would be than the metalphoto process. As cost savings diminishes vs. making your own FPE order, a group buy makes less sense. I doubt it would look good to print the panels in solid black using the metalphoto process.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

FPE does discounts at 5x, 10x, 20x but it's still a lot pricier than Metalphoto. Quality is stellar, though. Have you explored other options @ MPC? They do other processes, maybe black with white silkscreen is an option?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Actually it looks like the metalphoto process in black does look pretty good if this example is anything to go by:


Personally I could go either way. I think these would look very nice in alum or black. The original synthasystems were made both ways as well (alum background early, black later). I thought there might be a little more appeal for silver color panels as that is the euro standard. Alum background would be nice if you wanted other DIY euro with panels that would still fit in next to the steiner panels, or if they only wanted a couple steiner projects to fit in with an existing euro setup. Like I said, I am open to go either way. If we did get black you probably want to get washers to avoid rack-rash.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

FWIW for Euro panels I prefer the aluminum look given the existing design language in the format. thumbs up
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I like the alum border against the black on the example above. Seems like a cool panel idea similar to the e-mu modular panels.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

My logic is generally the same as negativespace but now that I think about it, the idea of heavy black metalphoto panels would look really nice.

Changes to the oscillator: I dropped the v/oct trimmer as I felt it was redundant. I move and aligned the VC 3 knob to make it look symmetrical and added a linear FM input.



I was also thinking that in addition to the Synthasystem VCF, I'd like to add one of the Synthacon VCFs to my system so I made a panel:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'm in. Not sure how much farther my friends are going to follow me down the path of eternal backlog, so I can't promise that it'll be my usual '5+ of everything'. It wouldn't surprise me if it turns out like that, though..

The heavy black panels look fantastic! I was expecting to vote for aluminum, but either would be great as far as I'm concerned. Very cool!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Do your guys want mounting holes on the front panels like on david's panels or do you prefer other means of attaching the PCB which doesn't require screw heads on the front panel (i.e. JBweld or L brackets attached to pots, etc.)?

His smaller panels are 7hp. I know odd-hp panels give some people heartache. I'd prefer to leave them as is but if this is a big deal, speak now.

I may order a quantity of one panel to see how they turn out and then start taking orders for groups of panels to save you and me shipping hassle. Probably something like this:
group 1
VCO
3xEG
VCF
VCA

group 2
Noise
Balanced Modulator
S&H
Phase Shifter

and so on...

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

thumbs up That would be awesome - I think that I would be ok with panel holes for mounting pcbs, and 7 hp unit-width.

woah Those panel designs above look gorgeous, btw! And the Synthacon multi-mode vcf is a great addition to the Syntha system.

cheers

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I only wanted to change a couple of these panels (the VCO and VCF). The rest I will probably leave as is. The VCF control layout has more symmetry this way and is a bit more pleasing to my eyes. You be the judge:



Here's is what the unchanged design looked like:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well it's been a few days since I posted the order thread for the first panel and there have been zero orders. Considering it would arguably be the most popular panel of the bunch and I would need a minimum of 15 order per panel, I'm starting to think this idea is DOA. If there is something I could or should be doing differently, please let me know. If there just isn't enough interest, there isn't much I can do about that.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Rod Serling Fan Club wrote:
Well it's been a few days since I posted the order thread for the first panel and there have been zero orders. Considering it would arguably be the most popular panel of the bunch and I would need a minimum of 15 order per panel, I'm starting to think this idea is DOA. If there is something I could or should be doing differently, please let me know. If there just isn't enough interest, there isn't much I can do about that.


Definitely interested and would buy 1 or 2 of each. Hard to follow all these threads especially when the first post doesn't spell out the current status. You know, like an order thread saying "[order]"

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'm definitely in for 3, and that will probably turn into 6.

Lots of other panels and projects going on right now- maybe people are just broke and/or focusing on things that have cutoff dates.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

ndkent wrote:
Definitely interested and would buy 1 or 2 of each. Hard to follow all these threads especially when the first post doesn't spell out the current status. You know, like an order thread saying "[order]"


Thanks for the advice. I edited the first post of this thread with the link to the VCF order thread. That thread does in fact have [ORDER] in the title: http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=781286#781286
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I'm definitely in for 3, and that will probably turn into 6.

Lots of other panels and projects going on right now- maybe people are just broke and/or focusing on things that have cutoff dates.


True, I’m probably being impatient cause I have many of these modules built and ready to go. I’d honestly rather it not take months and months to order these panels. I can always just order one-offs through Julian or FPE if that’s going be the case.

I also have a bunch more modules (fonik, CGS, etc.) I’d like euro panels for that aren’t currently offered in euro format. I’m thinking about offering more euro panel group buys. This panel order is making me question if I am doing something wrong. Could be bad timing with people being broke, time of year, etc.

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I apologize to the few people who might have wanted to participate but I just don’t think we will get the minimum numbers. I never intended for this to be something that was going to drag out for months and months as I have a large portion of my Steiner PCBs populated and ready to go. I’ve decided to use member Julian to make panels similar to the FPE panel. If you are looking for a better deal on panels than FPE, I suggest using him. Here is his website: http://www.thebeast.co.uk/purchase/index.html
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

sad banana what a bummer (sorry i hadn't noticed the order thread - would have been down for of each panel... guess i'll try to figure out ordering from fpe or the-beast at some point, since i still would like to have synthas in my system).


good luck with your build, RSFC!

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