Muff's Modules & More

mantiwhore

I am more an more attracted to an idea of incorporating some outboard digital synths (Radias, Ion) into my modular workflow. A-192 seems to be the first solution to go for. Please share your experiences with this module and its applications. Oh, and there's A-192-2 announced on Doepfer website ("early 2012"), which seems even more exciting...

tommi · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:51 am Post subject:

The A-192-2 seems a great solution to to make the modular 'talk' to any midi device, and the cv input wich is assignable to any midi cc is a great feature. On the other hand it's midi and it can be slow , i don't know, for sure i would be curious to try it!

Cat-A-Tonic · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:05 am Post subject:

I don't have any experience with any of these,
But people usually praise the Analogue Solutions
and the Analogue Systems CV to MIDI modules as having higher resolution than the Doepfer one.

There is a really nice looking one in 5U by Moon Modular too.

Clockgate · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:41 am Post subject:

I have the Analogue Solutions CVM which is a pretty cool module for the price. Two channels (fixed at midi channels 1 & 2) with CV control of pitch and volume. It doesn't track 1V/Oct, but I mainly use it with sequencers. The Moon module does track 1V/Oct AFAIK. I also have the Kilpatrick K1600 midi interface which will send midi data from the K2579 sequencer and K4815 pattern generator.

mantiwhore · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:44 am Post subject:

CV to MIDI please, not MIDI to CV (it's for pussieeeeees) Mr. Green

dj2sday · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:48 am Post subject:

lol. im dickslexick

robotfunk · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:53 am Post subject:

I wish someone would make a euro CV to MIDI with start/stop/clock as well

anti_climacus · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:11 am Post subject:

Analogue Solutions has released a V.2 of the CVM. Apparently it dual has quantized cv output. No demos of this module yet though, nor has it been for sale anywhere yet.

JohnLRice · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:53 am Post subject:

I'd suggest considering getting a small 5U side car so you can use a Moon Modular 552. love

http://www.lunar-experience.com/home.html

Clockgate · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:37 am Post subject:

mhtones · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:52 am Post subject:

Is the M552 the module to the right of the sequencer? Is there a midi cable out? I can't tell on my iPhone. I'm impressed with how well the midi responds to the sequencer!

REwire · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:16 am Post subject:

The Analogue Systems RS-300 is the best of them IMO. It does gate and CV which the current Doepfer doesn't. Also has a free run mode where it can make a midi gate from any changing voltage. Also generates midi cock from modular triggers.

Dan

JohnLRice · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:11 pm Post subject:

demorgan · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:03 pm Post subject:

haven · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:16 pm Post subject:

demorgan · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:52 pm Post subject:

What version of Live are you on? I thought one of the newest updates sorted it out a bit. When I tried it using a Tempest it was pretty good, not perfect obviously but not a mess like in older versions.

mhtones · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:58 pm Post subject:

m-m · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:19 pm Post subject:

It's my experience too that the latest version of Live has much better syncing to external midi clock than the older versions. It still drifts but it's not crazy bad as before.

felixer · Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:58 am Post subject:

stk · Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:56 pm Post subject:

As mentioned in the other thread, I'm using the Doepfer 192 to control Nord G1 and Reaktor from the modular thumbs up

WaveRider · Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:14 pm Post subject:

DoctorDoolittle · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:10 pm Post subject:

Paranormal Patroler · Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:45 am Post subject:

monstrinho · Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:33 pm Post subject:

This is the route I decided to take:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kmi/qunexus-smart-sensor-keyboard- controller

...I'm not sure about the stop/start and clock sync thing, but my guess is that some ace Max programmer could come up with a patch to make it work. I'm really looking forward to this thing; small, portable, MIDI to CV and CV to MIDI, OSC support, polyphonic aftertouch, per-key pitch bend etc etc etc. It checks ALL of the right boxes for me.

lx · Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:43 pm Post subject:

darenager · Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 2:57 pm Post subject:

^ Not a module but a midi'd monotribe will do it

For CV-Midi (and USB Midi) the TE OPlab is pretty cool, it also does the other way too. The latest OS adds a tap clock that sends a clock out of all the ports.

Paranormal Patroler · Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:00 pm Post subject:

I'll just go ahead and ask Doepfer about it. Maybe he should implement it in the a-192-2. It's only obvious that it includes a CV-to-MIDI clock.

felixer · Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:27 am Post subject:

Paranormal Patroler · Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:46 pm Post subject:

qu.one · Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:56 pm Post subject:

Paranormal Patroler · Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:05 pm Post subject:

Oh and by the way, all of the above requests (and way more) can already be done with the ADDAC000 series of modules. Just saying.

lx · Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:30 pm Post subject:

bsmith · Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:04 pm Post subject:

I've messed around some with using silent ways cv to midi plugin, it sends a signal out for your modular that you combine with whatever cv your wanting to midify in a vca on your system, and then takes that signal back into your host. A slight hassle but not toooo painful, and is a dependable way to get my noisering or wogglebug or whatever else cv's into midiland. He has the es-2 module which streamlines all that, a dedicated module you plug the cv straight into...

maudibe · Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:08 pm Post subject:

Suprised no one has mentioned the Analog Solutions CVM2

No clock out, but Cv1 Cv2 (velocity) & Gate, duplicated to handle 2 MIDI Channels.

But great if you want to drive external modules rather than drive a DAW.

Rudy D. · Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:16 pm Post subject:

sandyb · Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:50 pm Post subject:

qu.one · Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 1:50 pm Post subject:

talkboxert · Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:08 pm Post subject:

This looks promising.... http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=69776

Too bad I dont own the V2 ES-3, as it looks this will both be expanders.

1 looks like an A/D-converter (so CV in) over adat........

Lately I've been experimenting with triggering samples from the modular in Drumagog. So I use audio in stead of cv-to midi conversion. With a DC coupled interface (the ones that work with silent way) you can even use triggers straight from the SCM/MFBseq. Might even work without DC coupling, and if not, you can allways use
a ping from a LPG or whatever to get a short pulse on a certain beat.

Route to your DAW input and trigger something. Maybe with a bit of puzzling (REAKTOR?MAXmsp?) you could derive a clock as well?

Paranormal Patroler · Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:19 pm Post subject:

Hear ye, hear ye!

" [...]

a special USB/Midi-to-clock interface will be available early next year
(preliminary name A-190-8). Adding only a clock output (which one
96/48/32/16/8) and without Start/Stop/Reset to a CV/Gate interface does not make much sense from my point of view. Currently there is a discussion in the A-100 Yahoo group which features and in/outputs of the module should be available. You find a preliminary information about the module on our website:

www.doepfer.com > PRODUCTS > A-100 > New/future modules > A-190-8

But this version is already "antiquated" because of the suggestions and
discussions in the A-100 Yahoo group during the weekend (probably one output socket will be replaced by a special "wait for 1" function button).

Best regards
Dieter Doepfer "

One can only have love

for Dieter. [/i]

mildheadwound · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:58 am Post subject:

Non modular routes; Taurus pedal does two channels of cv/gate to midi, and the Nord drum has 4 triggers to midi. (Not sure about cv in the latter).

felixer · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:40 pm Post subject:

Paranormal Patroler · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:52 pm Post subject:

felixer · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:32 pm Post subject:

Paranormal Patroler · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject:

Paranormal Patroler · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject:

talkboxert · Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:55 am Post subject:

Can anyone tell me if the A-192 or the analog solutions CV-to midi module give rock solid timing from gates?

I can totally see why things like dedicated drum modules or things like drum dokta are fun, but I'd like to be able to do these things with my own samples

I have the Clockwork now and it's such a joy jamming away on the EXS!!! Only 3 channels and not 1cv input (only midi)

Final goal: get SCM/LFO banging away on the EXS 24 with rocksolid timing applause

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Another option I'm looking into is an s900 or the alesis i/o, but don't know if that will give better results than my software does now.

Don't really need CV, just gate/trigger but stuff like silent way or drumagog all gives lousy timing and is very sensitive (gates appear when gate voltage goes up AND falls down etc..... unless very finely attenuated srsly never

)

Disadvantage of both modules: they only takes 2 notes confused

So A a 192-1 could in no way convert It's controller data to note info?

Maybe using logic environment or max msp patch?

talkboxert · Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:05 am Post subject:

felixer · Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:57 am Post subject:

felixer · Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:13 pm Post subject:

kwaidan · Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:14 pm Post subject:

The Moog Minitaur can convert CV-to-midi. I haven't tried it yet.

talkboxert · Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:01 am Post subject:

Thnx felix, totally overlooked that option, was thinking towards s900 or likewise but this looks a lot more modern....looking to buy one as we speak cookie?!?

Paranormal Patroler · Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:33 am Post subject:

Hey felixer, just a quick question before I go ahead and buy this.
On the Doepfer page it states:

"MIDI messages appearing the MIDI Input are merged to the MIDI controller messages generated by the A-192-1. 128 different assignments (Presets) of the 16 CV inputs to MIDI controller messages are available. Switching between the 128 presets takes place with an 8-pin DIP switch on the pc board (permanently) or via incoming MIDI program change messages (temporarily). "

So, in order to send Note On messages like the ones I need to trigger the DRM, I'd have to reprogram the a-192 every time I turn the modular on?

felixer · Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:45 am Post subject:

FatRocky · Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:30 am Post subject:

Federico · Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:37 am Post subject:

Kilpatrick. I heard he will soon have legato retrigger as an option smile

sandyb · Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:44 am Post subject:

Paranormal Patroler · Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:48 am Post subject:

felixer · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:34 am Post subject: