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rico loverde Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| msprigings wrote: | | rico out of curiousity what is in your buchla serge style panel? | check the first page of this thread _________________ works for Malekko Heavy Industry |
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msprigings Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Very nice. Been trying to track down some 281 boards. I'm currently working on something similar. Had a decent idea then the 266 pcb looks like it's coming to fruition. |
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hank Common Wiggler
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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I've been playing around with front panel designer lately, trying to get a CGS/Serge euro panel together, but I'm worried about squeezing too much into 32hp.
2xExtended ADSR and a DUSG
The yellow ring has the same diameter as a davies 1900h.
Any obvious beginner mistakes that pop out? |
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Isaiah Ultra Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:48 am Post subject: |
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Forgive me if this has been asked before, I couldn't find any information about it.
How would I go about saving my FPD files as images to upload here?
Thanks! |
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Isaiah Ultra Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Here's a panel for my Synthasystem project, using David Ingebretson's FPD file as a starting point.
http://user.xmission.com/~dingebre/Project.html
VCF
I'm using Davies knobs.
*Davies 1900 - 0.5" (used for VC VAR ADJ)
*Davies 1910CS - 0.75" (used for RESONANCE and MODE)
*Davies 1913BW - 1.125" (used for FREQUENCY)
Does the spacing appear usable/"playable" and aethetically balanced/"correct"?
Cheers!
Here is a screen print of V1.1:
Here is a screen print of V1.1 displaying the diameter of the knobs I'm using:

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Isaiah Ultra Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Another panel for my Synthasystem project, using David Ingebretson's FPD file as a starting point.
http://user.xmission.com/~dingebre/Project.html
VCO A
I'm using Davies knobs.
*Davies 1900 - 0.5" (used for VC3 SCALE and FINE)
*Davies 1910CS - 0.75" (used for Waveform output attenuators and PULSE WIDTH)
*Davies 1913BW - 1.125" (used for FREQUENCY)
Does the spacing appear usable/"playable" and aethetically balanced/"correct"?
Cheers!
Here is a screen print of V1.0:
Here is a screen print of V1.0 displaying the diameter of the knobs I'm using:
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hank Common Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| Isaiah wrote: | Forgive me if this has been asked before, I couldn't find any information about it.
How would I go about saving my FPD files as images to upload here?
Thanks! |
I export as SVG from FPD, then use the command line tool rsvg-convert (from macports) to generate the PNG. Inkscape or some other vector graphics package should do the trick as well. Good luck! |
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EATyourGUITAR has no life
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Isaiah wrote: | Forgive me if this has been asked before, I couldn't find any information about it.
How would I go about saving my FPD files as images to upload here?
Thanks! |
on windows or mac I just turn the grid off and take a screenshot. then I paste into a graphics program like gimp. in gimp I change my color mode to indexed color and then I save as a GIF with 32 colors. if you have color in your panel, 64 colors makes a better GIF. this will get the file size way way down and save on hosting cost for muffwiggler.com
I have a 11kb gif on page 6  |
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emdot_ambient Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| hank wrote: | | Isaiah wrote: | Forgive me if this has been asked before, I couldn't find any information about it.
How would I go about saving my FPD files as images to upload here?
Thanks! |
I export as SVG from FPD, then use the command line tool rsvg-convert (from macports) to generate the PNG. Inkscape or some other vector graphics package should do the trick as well. Good luck! |
I also export SVGs from FPD...and then I usually just do a search on Google for SVG to JPG or whatever. Usually can find a free online converter that way.
Turns out like this (not the latest version of that panel, and not completely proofed yet):
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emdot_ambient Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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I would worry about the spacing between the top row of knobs (are those waveshape mixers?) and the jacks just above them. Imagine something plugged into most or all of those jacks and then trying to turn the knobs. Seems a bit tight to me, and it looks as if there's plenty of room to move those jacks up to give you some finger space.
Actually...I'd also be concerned about the space between that same row of knobs and the big Freq knob. I'd try to widen that out some as well if I were you (i.e., that would be my preference if I were making those panels)
I don't know about authentic (that's not a concern I have on any module really). _________________ "None of your five bar gate jumps and over sort of stuff." |
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Isaiah Ultra Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:41 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the feedback, guys.
I ended up just using Print Screen and pasting into Paint.
emdot_ambient
Yes, they are attenuators below the waveform outputs.
Their placement isn't something I would normally choose, but I think it works pretty well in the Synthasystem.
And, the panel is certainly big enough to allow wiggling, even if all the outputs are in use.
I guess I'd like to retain elements of the original layout, too. |
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Isaiah Ultra Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Here are two updated versions of the Synthasystem VCO A panel I've been working on.
For display purposes, I've increased the drill-hole diameter to match the diameter of the knobs that will be used on those controls.
V1.1
V1.1 shifts everything on the lower half of the panel down 4mm.
Then the Frequency drill-hole is repositioned.
It uses the smaller Steiner logo to afford more panel space.
I actually really like the smaller logo, kind of understated.
Though would perhaps look best if all my other modules use the smaller logo, too (so far, they don't).
V1.2
V1.2 shifts everything on the lower half of the panel down 3mm.
Then the Frequency drill-hole is repositioned.
It uses the larger Steiner logo, like David's original FPD file.
I spoke to David about the smaller logo, he said that it can look a little "muddy" if the routing bit isn't particularly new.
Though my Synthasystem Noise and Phaser panels feature the smaller logo and they look pretty good.
I'm much happier about the text being aligned below the controls on these versions (my V1.0 above looks pretty messy in comparison).
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Isaiah Ultra Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:42 am Post subject: |
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Here is the latest version of my Synthasystem VCF panel.
V1.5
Using the same approach as the V1.1 and V1.2 VCO A panels above, I shifted on the lower two thirds of the panel down a few mm, then repositioned the Frequency drill-hole.
I soon realised I'd have to adjust the jack layout, so as not to interfere with the PCB mounting holes.
Tried Grouping the VC inputs and the associated text and aligning with the centre of the panel, but then the SIG IN and SIG OUT jacks didn't look right (left as they were, or evenly distributed across the width of the panel).
So, I ended up arranging the jacks in a 2x4 grid.
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emdot_ambient Super Deluxe Wiggler
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dmitri Veteran Wiggler
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:40 am Post subject: |
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i really like them Synthasystem designs !
ok i think this monstrosity is ready for critique finally.
The header and footer will be replaced with art. The nanas are spaced so that they can be patched horizontally with dual banana plugs across the panel if so desired. I was thinking of adding the slope designs usually above the pots on a Serge but doing my own version. Still have time
I printed it on paper and taped it to cardboard/ have it on the bench now about ready to test the VCOs.
After all works i will etch the panel on aluminum.
On the first vco i added a freq level jack but no pot. dunno what i was thinking. sso when wiring i just put a 100k resistor behind that jack. I got no clue if this wil work. this type of #%$^ reason why i need to use cardboard first lol decisions are the hardest part.
This is 4u. Its a gift, gotta be done by end of month and will go in one of them old Luggage makeup boxes from the 60s like a hot jet setting flight attendant would carry.
The jack color choice matches the box and them happen to be the colors of banana that i have in bulk. The old tinnerman mount kind.
The color scheme has nothing to do with the Serge Jack colors standard and thats why I'm wondering if people will think its silly and wrong.....
The girl its for is just learning synthesis so I separated the jacks by just "In and Out".
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zthee wrote:
"How to place the boards behind the panel is equally important as how the panel will look. You should be able to look at the front, turn it around and it should be just as pretty. I don't think you should leave the placement of the boards for "I'll solve that when I get to that part...". It should be thought of before." |
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emdot_ambient Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see anything technically wrong with that design (misspelled words and that kind of thing).
The only thing that jumped out at me from a consistency standpoint is the mixer output. The outputs for the LFO and Wave Multiplier are both on the bottom row, while the output of the Mixer is on the top. So unless you're anticipating using a double banana plug to connect the Wave Multiplier out to the Mixer's In 1 jack, it LOOKS kind of inconsistent.
But that's an aesthetic/intended use question. _________________ "None of your five bar gate jumps and over sort of stuff." |
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e-grad Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Having three arrows pointing to the mode does not make it clear. Rather the opposite. I'd take one arrow starting at the middle of the right edge of the most left switch passing "through" the neighbouring switch than moving upwards to the square stating the modes. I'd even leave off the words LPG Mode.
"Audio/CV1" (most left) have a letter blank btn "CV" and number.
Other than that a great panel design. _________________ elektrograd |
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emdot_ambient Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| e-grad wrote: | | Having three arrows pointing to the mode does not make it clear. Rather the opposite. I'd take one arrow starting at the middle of the right edge of the most left switch passing "through" the neighbouring switch than moving upwards to the square stating the modes. |
I was putting that panel out as an example of how it looks to export an SVG from FPE and converting it to a pic. I haven't finished the design on it enough to solicit help, but thanks anyway Might as well look at it since you were kind enough to offer suggestions.
[SNIP] Re-read your comment and understand better what you meant [/SNIP]
As for adding a space in the text block, I'm afraid that takes the text dangerously close to the edge. I've tried it and it looks a bit too close.
The hardest part about this panel is going to be deciding how to mount the PCBs...there are 4 of them, not including the "chicklet" PCBs I'm going to be using on all 10 knobs (because every single knob is a Push/Pull switch and trying to wire them all by hand would be a nightmare...doing it with PCB mounted headers will be painful enough).  _________________ "None of your five bar gate jumps and over sort of stuff." |
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negativspace Manhattan Analog
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Isaiah wrote: |
I spoke to David about the smaller logo, he said that it can look a little "muddy" if the routing bit isn't particularly new.
Though my Synthasystem Noise and Phaser panels feature the smaller logo and they look pretty good. |
Yes, the logo is way too big on David's panels I'm afraid. Yours are much inproved. There's no need to worry about muddying up the graphic, I've had several panels similar to this one cut @ FPE and the logos all look perfectly sharp at that size:
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Awesome gift!
BTW, I am pretty sure it is spelled "Lockhart" and not "Lockheart" .
EDIT: Unless of course you're aiming for some kind of romantic gesture in which case I would consider leaving it like this . _________________ 0101010001101000011010010111001100100000011010010111001100100000011000 01011011100110000101101100011011110110011100101110 |
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