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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List



This is a view from the back (wiring side, not pin side). The other pins (midi signal pins in the midi standard) do different things in DIN Sync based on the machine (reset, tap, continue).

You can wire up 1/4" plugs or jacks but make sure to also connect the ground to them or they won't carry a signal. If you do this, put a switch on the start/stop signal for a manual start/stop reset. If you put a NC push button on the clock signal it will pause when you push it.

It is important to note that while most Roland machines can handle the 10vPP of a modular into their DIN jack, the recommended voltages for the Time Suite are 0 to +5vDC.

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A very nice overview of DIN sync can be found on http://www.chd-el.cz/index.php?id=119. It's in Czech only (the rest of the site does have English available), but Google translate works fine.

All the diagrams are in English, though.

The STG system does not use the Continue or Reset pins, as only a couple of Roland units ever did.
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Why Adapter wrote:
The STG system does not use the Continue or Reset pins, as only a couple of Roland units ever did.


Correct. Thanks for adding that!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Bryan B wrote:

It is important to note that while most Roland machines can handle the 10vPP of a modular into their DIN jack, the recommended voltages for the Time Suite are 0 to +5vDC.


This could be fixed by putting a diode in series with a small current limiting resistor on the input.

I am thinking about DIY my own 1/4" time buffer. Does anyone know what connectors erwill uses for the time buffer??
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

i'm sorry it took me so long to respond here. quite frankly i've been too busy soldering and answering email when i have a chance to get to the pooter.

this isn't going to be coherent, i don't have time to write an essay so i'm just going to blurt a bunch of stuff out.

a) i'm sorry i don't make it more clear you don't need the time buffalo to use my sequencers. one of the three jacks on the front panel is labelled "SHIFT" so i figured that would be obvious enough, and it's explained in the copy. the sync aspect of this system _is_ what sets it apart, and i stand by that statement.

b) the Time Buffer was only supposed to be the first entry point for sync signals. we intended all along to have a main master clock module called the Time Rotor, which would be a sync hub for MIDI, DIN, and tape/FSK sync. obviously this hasn't happened yet because i'm undercapitalised, but it's still going to happen. the Time Buffer isn't going away though i promise.

c) the choice of DIN sync was twofold: sync 24 is just better. period. it's better than MIDI sync. also at the time of this system's conception (2007) it really did seem like the most common modular systems for dance musicians was Moog format, so it didn't seem like using DIN sync would be a problem.

there are many modern devices that have DIN sync. the Novation Drumstation and Bassstation, the MAM SQ16, the Mobius/Revolution/777, the Kenton interfaces, the x0xb0x, the Cirklon, the Jomox stuff, etc. it's not a dead sync format. those Innerclock guys for example are really pushing the concept in directions Ikutaro might never have imagined.

later this year there will be changes. i only have 3 panels left for the Time Buffer the way it is now and i'm not reordering them.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

suitandtieguy wrote:
the Time Buffer was only supposed to be the first entry point for sync signals. we intended all along to have a main master clock module called the Time Rotor, which would be a sync hub for MIDI, DIN, and tape/FSK sync. obviously this hasn't happened yet because i'm undercapitalised, but it's still going to happen. the Time Buffer isn't going away though i promise.
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later this year there will be changes. i only have 3 panels left for the Time Buffer the way it is now and i'm not reordering them.


This is great news. I hope to see the Time Rotor happen too. I love the small set of modules I have but am always wanting more "In The Modular" to control this suite.

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