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mecanikill
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

So happy I did not buy one of these. MD is kool, MM meh and Octatrack seems to have way to many limitations that would drive me nuts like the sample length limit...come on its 2012 and this is the best we can get? I'm hoping korg puts out a esx2 and gets it right. These are just my opinions and hope I have not offended anyone here.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

mecanikill wrote:
So happy I did not buy one of these. MD is kool, MM meh and Octatrack seems to have way to many limitations that would drive me nuts like the sample length limit...come on its 2012 and this is the best we can get? I'm hoping korg puts out a esx2 and gets it right. These are just my opinions and hope I have not offended anyone here.


16 seconds seems like a pretty long sample if you consider that the Octatrack is mainly a groovebox. each sample burst is meant to be a musical phrase or bar, not an entire verse, right? I mean, anything longer than 16 seconds isn't really a groove sample anymore. and isn't that what the Static Machine feature is for anyway? it can read much longer files and stream directly from the cf card. (sorry I don't actually have an Octatrack, just researching right now)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

You are missing the point of having longer samples Bouzou, it would be great to sample a minute of vinyl and chop it up in the octa to re arrange it!!

The octa is a sampler here and the machinedrum is more of a groovebox!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

One thing to consider with the 16 second limit is that the OS isn't finished yet...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Boelie035 wrote:
You are missing the point of having longer samples Bouzou, it would be great to sample a minute of vinyl and chop it up in the octa to re arrange it!!

The octa is a sampler here and the machinedrum is more of a groovebox!


if you're just going to bring in a long track only to be rearranged anyway, what's the difference in just cutting it up on the computer and just importing it in already modular chunks that can be played in sequence AND rearranged?

I think I would love long samples too, but it seems it's not really a dealbreaker to me, considering all the other things it can do well. the power of the Octatrack I think is the realtime groovebox playable quality. it's not really meant to be a super industrial strength editor (especially with that tiny screen -- imagine editing a long long sample with that. the waveform would be undiscernable). major editing should be done on a computer, no? maybe you're just asking for too much... seriously, i just don't get it
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I enjoy having long vocal samples from movies in my music and that's a deal breaker for me. How long has it been out now? They still have not finished the operating system on it...and let's not forget the 4 bar limitation either. Elektrons build of the MnM and MD were crap too the pots were the worst I have ever used on a machine and came loose real quick and had to be repaired numerous times and I could not stand the clanky buttons that didn't grip and made a click everytime I hit them. Glitterati...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

The state of the OS on release was poor to say the least- its gotten a lot better and I believe it will continue to do so. But yeah, its been around over a year now without some of the initial advertised functions.

Id say the 4 bar length is much less of a problem on the OT since you can lower the clock speed on individual tracks- setting at 1/8th of clock speed is going to give you 8x more length on that track, which is fine if you are triggering a longer sample and not fine if you want tighter control over events.

If you dont like the elektron build quality then the OT wont convert you.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

And just to make it clear, the 16 second limit is the current recording limit. Samples transferred by usb can be pretty much as long as you like, only limited by the size of your card.

Re the 16 sec recording limit, I think tIb is right in emphasizing that the OS isn't finished yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I enjoy using my modular as a constant sound source and feed the streaming audio into the Octatrack. I do gate & defect sequencing from there. Super simple and crazy tight with the rest of the mix.

If you'd rather clock your modular's sequencer to the 8T (without the aforementioned midi/cv interface) you can send a sharp ping out of the cue out and get your clock from there. It's a little sloppier however.

Modular + 8T = win! we're not worthy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'm not saying I'd hate the ability to have longer samples, but on the other hand I think Elektron might have done this on purpose to make a sampler you have to play.

I mean, you can set up one shot record trigs on multiple tracks and arm them one after another to get longer semi-continuous sample time. Or set up sequences of different lengths to work in a more automated fashion. From my perspective this encourages happy accidents. And my feeling about happy accidents is: "I live for this shit".
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

The manual blows.
There are things that I'd change with the sampler. Hopefully they'll improve with the next OS update.
Loooong learning curve.

That said it's been a crazy addition to the modular. I started out mangling samples and only recently started into the midi sequencer. Here's a quick demo featuring the OT sequencing three modular voices via a vermona qmi midi-cv interface. Drum dokta clocked with the OT midi clock through a timetable for the drum sounds.

[s]http://soundcloud.com/fredguy-1/octa-midi[/s]

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