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equalpyramid Common Wiggler
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:10 am Post subject: |
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| Rod Serling Fan Club wrote: |
Here is the 266 panel thus far. I am working on improving the other panels so they share similar fonts and such. |
That looks amazing . However, will they be in blue or black? I vote blue. |
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blue_lu Veteran Wiggler
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| Rod Serling Fan Club wrote: |
Here is the 266 panel thus far. I am working on improving the other panels so they share similar fonts and such. |
very cool!!
and +1 on the "please make it in blue" |
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Rod Serling Fan Club aquatic hitchhiker
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:28 am Post subject: |
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The print on all of the panels is going to be blue. This has been discussed in this thread and also in the first post on the ordering thread shows what the blue will look like. _________________ DIY panels and PCBs for Buchla and Euro format: http://synthpanels.blogspot.de/
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jooks Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:54 am Post subject: |
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So many interesting design ideas here
266> looks amazing! I will buy one for sure.
291> I prefer to keep it close to the original.
180> Looks very nice! I would get one.
245> Yes! Very interesting and Im definatly in for that.
259 mutant > Im very interested in this and would use my 258s for this
rather then a dedicated 258 panel.
Tabula > interesting module but I have to much to build already
Lanterman Easal PCB > Panel with Timbre, crossfader, pre.amp and env. follower. Id be all over that!!!
To sum it up. Im interested in almost all of the designs! Great ideas and great designs  |
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oberkorn Common Wiggler
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | 266> looks amazing! I will buy one for sure.
291> I prefer to keep it close to the original. |
ditto. _________________ .:easy listening for the hard of hearing:.
WTB: Pokey.synth module & Plan B Wave Splicer |
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valis aliens killed bigfoot
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Me personally, I'd rather have "Buchla inspired" panels that look and act essentially the same as the original but might have a minor upgrade here or there. As far as the 291, I'd really like to have the three outputs. That being said, I'll go with the group consensus on this one.
Where do we stand on the 258 panels? Do we have a EPA on the prototype panels? Thanks! |
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Rod Serling Fan Club aquatic hitchhiker
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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| valis wrote: |
Where do we stand on the 258 panels? Do we have a EPA on the prototype panels? |
Sorry for the slow down. The quick story is that I got help on the 266. The fonts don’t match the other designs I did but are closer to the originals. As soon as I get copies of the fonts I can revise all my panels and order. The 266 is ready to go and I could order that first but I really want to make sure I have the same fonts for the other panels so I am not in a position where the panels don’t exactly match. _________________ DIY panels and PCBs for Buchla and Euro format: http://synthpanels.blogspot.de/
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ultrashock Veteran Wiggler
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Rod Serling Fan Club wrote: | | ultrashock wrote: | | Rod Serling Fan Club wrote: | | <..>I did get the metalphoto samples with blue print and they look nice. Either way I plan to make it happen. Thanks for your patience. | could you show some sample pics? |
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as far as I see that's not a silkscreen/etching but something like UV direct printing, right? are you satisfied with the quality? can you see the dots at close up inspection?
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ultrashock Veteran Wiggler
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Rod Serling Fan Club aquatic hitchhiker
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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| ultrashock wrote: | | as far as I see that's not a silkscreen/etching but something like UV direct printing, right? are you satisfied with the quality? can you see the dots at close up inspection? |
Have you looked at the large picture I posted of the blue printed sample? That picture is a blow-up picture of a small 2” panel so the view you are getting in that picture is enlarged and probably better than what you could see in person with your naked eye.
I think it looks very nice personally. I didn’t notice any dots or printing anomalies. The way the process was explained to me is that for colors they use a type of anodize dye. Had I not known that, I would have guessed it was silk-screen without touching it. In some respects it is probably better than silkscreen as it is imbedded in the anodized material. You won’t be scratching this stuff off.
Danjel (Intellijel modules) recently discussed getting panels made this way in the buchla forum. He seemed happy with the blue color but made his fonts too small and made the panels in satin (not brushed) so it didn’t match the other MM modules. You can look at that thread to see pictures of the MPC blue print side-by-side with 200e panels. _________________ DIY panels and PCBs for Buchla and Euro format: http://synthpanels.blogspot.de/
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valis aliens killed bigfoot
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the reply. As always, no rush. Just curious. |
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Rod Serling Fan Club aquatic hitchhiker
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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I asked Danjel (intellijel) about his experience making the buchla MM-module. He said that he didn't think MPC was a close enough match to the buchla 200e panels so he went with the same manufacturer eardrill uses but cautioned that they are VERY expensive.
From the begining my goals were a close approximation at a reasonable price. I think that is what we will get. I just wanted to throw this information out there for anyone who might be turned off by panels that are not a perfect match next to 200e modules (200 panels aren't either FWIW). _________________ DIY panels and PCBs for Buchla and Euro format: http://synthpanels.blogspot.de/
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jooks Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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For me mpc price/looks ratio is way better then the very expensive ones. They will look great and I will afford to buy as many as I like instead of 2 or 3. I dont have an real buchla so I will probably never notice the differences anyway....maybe they who has the real thing think differently about this?? _________________ FT: Buchla 12wls + case. Want 18wls |
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ultrashock Veteran Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| Rod Serling Fan Club wrote: | | ultrashock wrote: | | as far as I see that's not a silkscreen/etching but something like UV direct printing, right? are you satisfied with the quality? can you see the dots at close up inspection? |
Have you looked at the large picture I posted of the blue printed sample? <...> |
Of course I looked at all the pictures you've posted. And please, understand me right - I'm not arguing you by no means - on the contrary I'm very interested what technology was involved since looks like it's really modern printing method used by advertising companies everyday for printing labels and whole full-colored images on aluminum, glass, plastic, acrylic and so on.
I've made some research and found that one of the stated above progressive technologies is called UV direct printing. When printing some vector it really looks like the modern silkscreen (screen printing) but is more reliable to physical damage having much higher resolution herewith.
And you can very thoroughly pick-up the color from the range of existing pantones.
The full-color raster images printing also possible but on aluminum there will be some degraded tone reproduction with visible dots (something similar as Malekko Wiard frontpanels).
I inspected thoroughly the modern Buchla 200e modules in live - I can't claim is it still silkscreen method used or it's the modern one, but I'm strongly confident with digital direct printing better results could be obtained - ie better resolution.
And I'm almost confident that all labels on modern synthesizers could be done in this way (note the labels are colored):
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rScBRKlTdoE/TN2GuB6NQ0I/AAAAAAABuys/tBuKayzf EyA/s1600/423766003_o.jpg
http://glennmoller.com/gpics/access_virus_ti_polar2.JPG
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll150/zahush76/Picture029.jpg
rather than the silkscreen on older ones:
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2781/4343286403_e7c47dd1c4_b.jpg
http://www.socialentropy.com/images/DSCN3721.JPG
the image below is a sample of direct print on anodized alumunum bottles:
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Rod Serling Fan Club aquatic hitchhiker
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Of course I looked at all the pictures you've posted. |
I wasn’t being snarky. I get a lot of the same question asked over and over again. I realize these kinds of threads can become a big cluster when it comes to looking for information. I just wanted to make sure you had seen it.
Per MPC, the color process MPC used is actually different from the black “metalphoto” process as seen on the malekko panels. Having looked at many metalphoto euro panels, I think the malekko panels suffer from the source image, not the MPC process. Most of the MPC panels have crisp black lines. I think the source image needs to be crisp, black, no grays, etc. _________________ DIY panels and PCBs for Buchla and Euro format: http://synthpanels.blogspot.de/
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| mono-poly wrote: | | I'd love to see a panel for the L-1 Quad VCA/Mixer ! |
mono, I decided to move this discussion over to the panel discussion thread. If enough people are interested in any design in buchla format I will do a panel. I think I will try to exhaust the projects that are directly buchla influenced first but I'm open minded  _________________ DIY panels and PCBs for Buchla and Euro format: http://synthpanels.blogspot.de/
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Rod Serling Fan Club aquatic hitchhiker
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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I've been thinking about the 291 dilema. One possibility I am considering is keeping the outline and pretty much everything the same but making the 2 output jacks 3 (I suppose similar to the way that later 258 panels had 3 jacks where there once were 2). Both because of tighter spacing and out of compromise I likely wouldn't label these jacks. Thus once could use them as HP-BP-LP or as 3 BP jacks. _________________ DIY panels and PCBs for Buchla and Euro format: http://synthpanels.blogspot.de/
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:09 am Post subject: |
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LN-1 vca/mixer
(dual) flopsequencer
Dual Serge 1973 vcf
Those 3 would be great  _________________ WTB Buchla 100 modules
i don't need the gear, the gear needs me
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equalpyramid Common Wiggler
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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See, I'm tempted to ask for a Buchla-influenced panel for a Quad Slope, but wonder if it's not crossing boundaries not meant to be crossed.
I dunno, I think it would be cool to stuff that on a one-panel and would liberate me from the idea of building an entire Serge-diy panel.
Anyone? |
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Pfurmel Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| Rod Serling Fan Club wrote: | | I've been thinking about the 291 dilema. One possibility I am considering is keeping the outline and pretty much everything the same but making the 2 output jacks 3 (I suppose similar to the way that later 258 panels had 3 jacks where there once were 2). Both because of tighter spacing and out of compromise I likely wouldn't label these jacks. Thus once could use them as HP-BP-LP or as 3 BP jacks. |
Sounds like a plan. If the majority of people want to keep it true to the original though, I will be ok with that too. _________________ http://boxemissions.tumblr.com/
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