Muff's Modules & More

odecahedron · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:08 am Post subject: serial clock dividers

daisy chaining them... is this theoretically possible? (as an alternative to additional sequencers in the hope of creating layered rhythmic complexity) .

the object being to obtain a swag of different takes on the one original sequence.

ps: im thinking more about triggers than frequency

Cat-A-Tonic · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:34 am Post subject:

Yes, you can clock a divider with one of the outputs of another divider,
or use a mix / logical combination of divider outputs to clock your second divider.

...or you can feed it audio and extract subharmonics.

I'm starting to think you can never have too many dividers.

BugBrand · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:50 am Post subject:

Roughly a third of my personal setup is given over to rhythmic and divisionary duties. That's an area I find really interesting in modular-land -- my sequencer, while only 8 steps, can provide a load of variation when combined with dividers / logic / etc.

I'm also spending some time at the moment building a frame of divisions and combiners to trigger a dual-drum-synth (tama) - the results are really satisfying -> very powerful rhythmic, but with so much more variety than your regular x0x sequencing.

BananaPlug · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:31 am Post subject: Re: serial clock dividers

kindredlost · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:12 am Post subject:

Indeed! I have 13 modules which are useful for division duties.
The divider that comes in handy for a beginning of a series is the CGS Master Divider. It suffers from too few inputs but does NOT suffer from too many outputs. So it is great as a starting point in the chain. It also has the unique ability to do qudrature of the beat.
Another fine divider is the ubiquitous CGS01 sub oscillator/harmonic sequencer. I have three of these and use them in almost every patch. This is fun!

CJ Miller · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:16 am Post subject:

Go for it!

Dividers are so completely useful, I will probably never touch a drum grid again. They are cheap to build, easy to use, and are IMO more powerful and intuitive than other options. Add some logic and VC switching and you have the ultimate sequencer.

You don't even need a sequence to feed into dividers, even just a pulse or oscillator will do. Make rhythms out of practically anything.

sduck · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:43 am Post subject:

clock divider+various logic modules = magic!

Backroads · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:04 pm Post subject:

I'm convinced that I'll be getting at least one of these once I start filling my second cabinet.

Does anyone know of a 5U frequency divider? (Ok, couldn't I use a clock divider to sync multiple LFOs for the same purpose?)

Adam-V · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:47 pm Post subject:

odecahedron · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:58 pm Post subject:

aaaawwesome thanks guys ... i thought as much but had nooby 2nd thoughts. still awaiting the arrival of my first divider. and I CANT WAAAIT

shortly after joining this board i posted a pic-plan for 'my first modular' (an 8-10 wide 5U portable with a bit of everything basic to feed off the MFOS 16 seq im having built) ...but since then ive come to the conclusion that this first "rack" be devoted totally to seq/division duties.

im getting a Yu divider kit soon (maybe two if the first build comes out ok) and a Moon554... the COTK looks interesting but i havent seen/read much about what it does thats different from others. the cynthia prime divider also sounds like fun.

i have a horn for polyrhythms and loooong sequences with odd measures so the addition of division (hur hur) will probably give me heart aattack

feel free to post with any other brands in 5U (and/or kits) that people rate (...and why)

<3

sduck · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:15 pm Post subject:

This is sort of my be-all, end-all clock divider/multiplier/messer thing -

SCMRCD front by sduck409, on Flickr

Not commercially available as such, but relatively easy to throw together in some sort of fashion if you're DIY capable or know someone who is. The pcb and parts are available as a kit from 4ms, and the panel is freely available in the modularsynthpanels yahoo forum. MOTM format as such, but it's been adapted to MU by Rico Loverde.

dude · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:35 pm Post subject:

fuck that makes my lil euro pieces of shit diy builds look like complete trash.

so amazing.

odecahedron · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:49 pm Post subject:

sduck: i have lustily oggled that diamond in the ruff recently... very delicious looking

so please tell me if im correct: the clock multiplier part takes an incoming clock signal and splits it into many clocks that all obey the incoming rate ?

... which u can then assign to the different division outputs (of the rcd)?

infradead · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:19 pm Post subject:

love my a161 and timetable combo. just need a RCD to complete the trinity

dude · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:11 am Post subject:

pointsource · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:59 am Post subject:

Sorry to hijack your thread, but... lol

Since you guys are talking about clock dividers, do you mind recommending me some nice clock divider modules?

What are the most useful and easy to use? (brands, models)

I woud like one that could divide the input until 16th's of the original

thx a lot

pointsource · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:04 am Post subject:

The Doepfer A160 seems really good and simple, I like it...

pointsource · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:32 pm Post subject:

Another question that came in to my mind:

What are those "logic" modules you guys are talking about???

sduck · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:21 pm Post subject:

odecahedron · Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:02 am Post subject:

OMG that sounds perfect...
im really interested to see what surprises may come from a combination of units like this - my only real requirement is that all outgoing clocks "metricly" relate to the orig/initial clock - it could be a fucking 333/4 time-sig for all i care, but so long as everything remains commutative after 10 minutes or so then i'll be a happy camper

It's motherfucking bacon yo

odecahedron · Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:05 am Post subject:

so sduck: is ur build a trade secret or is there info/schems etc available online somewhere (sorry at work and not much time for intensive self-research just now)

CJ Miller · Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:45 am Post subject:

sduck · Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject:

Why Adapter · Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject:

FlangerMagazine · Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:28 pm Post subject:

great thread!

solitaryzen · Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:47 pm Post subject:

As far as I know, there is currently no commercially available boolean logic module available in the frac format. Wish someone would rectify that (one of the few modules I still need for my system). Metalbox is no longer making theirs.

monstrinho · Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:24 pm Post subject: