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suitandtieguy Hammond King
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WaveRider Ultra Wiggler
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| suitandtieguy wrote: | | We can make it work. |
what? fit the time buffer in a skiff???
or work on getting the time divider out?????
...anyway I am all for this "DINsynced" sequencer line, please DO follow up and develop your line, cause at this point I am wishing someone else would offer such sequencers, the quality is top notch but the most important piece is the time divider!!!!!I need to get those pulses out to the rest of my modular. _________________ Modular: http://soundcloud.com/soleil-vert
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sunsinger Watcher of the Skies
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure that STG can make a modification to a timebuffer. It would probably involve re-mounting the card.
I have a time buffer that I had to extend because I had too many sequencers etc.
Eric just sent me another card part and a cable to link the two cards. I just mounted the card to the floor of my cabinet with some spacers and screws.
It gave me eight or more outputs. Easy as that.
Send a PM to Eric and ask if he can do this. His sequencing system is the bomb!
I've got a Time Modules system with 5 VMS, Two TMS, two Shift Managers a time divider, and a time buffer. Works flawlessly. _________________ My SoundCloud space
http://soundcloud.com/sunsinger/
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WaveRider Ultra Wiggler
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| sunsinger wrote: |
I've got a Time Modules system with 5 VMS, Two TMS, two Shift Managers a time divider, and a time buffer. Works flawlessly. |
great that you enjoy it! I am in euro format, so there is only the trigger sequencer, graphic, and time buffer at the moment.
I am a big fan of DINsync for synchronization, I used to have a super setup, with a 808, 909, cr78, 2XCSQ-600 sequencing 2 sh-2. Well that tight groove is unobtainable with midi. So I want to build another similar setup with a Xoxbox, a Miami, a SEM, (+ soon a minitaur) and a sequencing skiff.
The STG suite is looking like a great setup, but all my needs are not covered.... but that must be real cool to have a trigger+graphic sequencer locked to the Miami+Xoxbox. I like the stop+restart on step 1 being all taken care of thru the din sync. And the timing changes appearing at the next iteration is brilliant. They should be the bomb to play!!! And the magical tight, shuffled grooves that it can make!
...anyway it's a very long winded project of mine, a very important one for me, to go back to what I had in until '94...
but what I am missing with the stg suite:
-how to have more than one din sync slave
-the 24ppqn and all signals should be be available (I see that the time divider has 32th out, that is good for music, but I would like to have the original signal out (24ppqn) to sync the seq-02 or modcan seqencer, and for other fast clock cv effects)
-would love to have more sequencer choices, from stg or other module makers, that plug into the time buffer
But I really think I am about to dive in soon!!!!! My xoxbox-miami setup needs expanding, I tried with a kenton and midi but it's not grooving as well, and the timing is a bit behind of course. So it fell flat, I want a large din sync/trigger, analog sequencing setup... _________________ Modular: http://soundcloud.com/soleil-vert
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giorgio NITE MIND
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sunsinger Watcher of the Skies
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| giorgio wrote: | | you can add more dinsync outputs to the time buffer easily |
Yes, it's true. I mentioned that in my post. I connected a new Time Buffer card, which Eric supplies at a reduced cost, to the 1st time buffer. There is also a DinSync out on the TB module. The Sync is unbelievably tight.
I just recently acquired the STG Archangel sequencer, which is a DinSync master. It's expensive, but blows most sequencers out of the water.
Archangel
It has much of the time modules suite built in, as well as well as a touch plate keyboard. The sequencing is handled in a different way however, more like the old Serge TKB, but it's very much more.
I personally think that Eric has the most well thought out sequencer systems out there for modular format. Eric is very eloquent in his designs. I'm sure that once the Archangel is released that more of the sequencer stuff will appear for Euro. Talk with Eric to be sure.
Yes, I am definitely a fanboy, but only because his stuff works so well for me. Check my soundcloud link below to hear the sequencing. Much of the stuff there is done with the sequencing tools by Eric. _________________ My SoundCloud space
http://soundcloud.com/sunsinger/
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WaveRider Ultra Wiggler
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| sunsinger wrote: | | giorgio wrote: | | you can add more dinsync outputs to the time buffer easily |
Yes, it's true. I mentioned that in my post. |
sorry I did not get that, so you have more than one DINsync slave (external boxes), I tough you just needed to have more than 7 STG sequencers connected to that time buffer.
So what I get from you 2, is that I can get a second time buffer, slave it to the 1st, and then use it to sync another external dinsync box.... but that is a mod we have to ask STG about.... so nice to know then!
As for the archangel sequencer, I did not know that it was a dinSYNC master (I guess it cannot be a slave?), should be a very nice tool indeed, hope to see some more specs/demos soon, but it's way over budget, I am thinking of getting a graphic sequencer and a time buffer now... and a time divider when it's out.. that's all I need to get going... so maybe I should wait for the archangel instead. Nice, now I don't know what I want anymore  _________________ Modular: http://soundcloud.com/soleil-vert
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sunsinger Watcher of the Skies
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to confuse things for you.
Just put it this way. It can't hurt to have the Time Modules first... I did.
The Archangel is three times the fun now, because I have a solid Time Modules Suite.
Myself, I'd go with your current plans for the moment.
I have the Archangel prototype only, so while its close, it's not quite ready for prime time yet.
Just a mouthwatering tidbit for the future.  _________________ My SoundCloud space
http://soundcloud.com/sunsinger/
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WaveRider Ultra Wiggler
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suitandtieguy Hammond King
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| suitandtieguy wrote: | | Good news. Joe is working on the Divider PCB this week, so things should start moving again. |
Yesssss!  _________________
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| JP wrote: | | Hell I want to be able to turn my toaster on with a CV trigger. |
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sunsinger Watcher of the Skies
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| WaveRider wrote: | | sunsinger wrote: |
The Archangel is three times the fun now, because I have a solid Time Modules Suite.
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yeah man, that must be lots of fun.
BTW I was quite blown away by the music on your soundcloud page!!!! wow very good stuff, impressive resume too  |
Thanks much for your kind words! _________________ My SoundCloud space
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suitandtieguy Hammond King
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:41 am Post subject: |
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this PCB is going to be used in 3 different modules, with versions in both formats. the Time Divider (moog and euro), the .DIV(euro)/Dividers(moog), and a logic module. _________________ http://suitandtieguy.com
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lorenzovektor I want cyborg legs
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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WaveRider Ultra Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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| suitandtieguy wrote: | | Good news. Joe is working on the Divider PCB this week, so things should start moving again. |
great!!!
| suitandtieguy wrote: | | this PCB is going to be used in 3 different modules, with versions in both formats. the Time Divider (moog and euro), the .DIV(euro)/Dividers(moog), and a logic module. |
you know you have a very hot lineup in your hands!!!.... that suite is going to be sweet!!!!!! so happy to see you get going on this
I ordered a 2-row skiff today, that will be for my DIN-synced STG aceed machine  _________________ Modular: http://soundcloud.com/soleil-vert
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Suit. Just wanted to ask for an update on availability of Time Divider?
Having just gotten the other Time modules into my rig, I'm looking towards the next step which will be some sort of clock divider, etc.
I've got my Moog Multi-pedal acting as clock source at the moment, pushing a Doepfer MSY2 Mid to Sync converter into the Buffer.
Maschine provides the beat (Roland CR-78 is my drum box of choice) and everything is Locked like nobodies business.
I'd love to take divisions of the Time Buffer clock elsewhere in my rig; at the moment, the only way to do this as far as I know is to take the Trig out from the Trigger Mini Store or to sacrifice one of the channels of the Shift Mgr set to one but that's no fun!
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suitandtieguy Hammond King
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:06 am Post subject: |
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the design is done, right now i'm trying to find a new SMT manufacturer, as the company i worked with previously apparently doesn't care about my business any more, doesn't return emails or phone calls.
whatevs, it's now "commodity manufacturing", so it's a simple process now.
as soon as i have more data i'll post it here. _________________ http://suitandtieguy.com
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