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King Crimson (circa Discipline)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

anybody know anything about the scales these riffs are wraped around?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Mostly they used the whole-tone (hexatonic) scale and the diminished (octatonic) scale. These are two examples of symmetric scales. For a more complete set of such scales, check out the composer Olivier Messiaen's famous book "Technique of my musical language" where he describes his "modes of limited transposition."
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

woah

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

robotmakers wrote:
Saw them on the Discipline tour Oct. 29, 1981 in Boston. Memorable.


Saw them March 1,1982 at umass amherst. Crazy show, opened with an hour of short films.

Fuck, I'm old.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Heaviest four piece lineup since Blind Faith (at the time). Just solid at every station. Anyway... My all time favorite is still the first album. RED is my heavy favorite... and my underdog best song is 'Ladies of the Road'.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

THIS...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=OlfKWRbwYPA

is amazing - 90 min show in Japan mid 80s, incredible performance, dig me, waiting man, indiscipline, industry - all the bent stuff - soo rad

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

MindMachine wrote:
and my underdog best song is 'Ladies of the Road'.



I like that one too (hilarious lyrics).

Islands is probably my favourite album of theirs (especially the title track).
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Def. a cool band. Makes we want to go listen to them...
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I know this thread is dated, and my reference is a shot off the bumper in the corner pocket, but one of my favorite Fripp works is....

Fripp and Eno "No Pussyfooting".

Two guys, a Les Paul, and a room full of reel to reels and tape loops. I still have the orginal vinyl of that album that I bought in the fall of 1978. I got it after I heard it being used as background fodder on this late night rasio show in the Houston area. Two guys taking in late night phonecalls .. they'd put these stoned-out-of-their-minds callers on these delays and screw with the delay times and feedback while the callers were talking to them .. all the while Fripp and Eno are going on in the background .... it would totally trip out the callers!

I listened to it until 3am that night. Fucking with stoned people on live radio was great late-night entertainment at one time. Those times are gone forever.

So if you like the "Frippertronics" thing, it nearly sounds EXACTLY like an entire LP of this stuff on this video. 26 minutes per side of this exact type of thing.



In fact, this is so close to No Pussyfooting that it may even be part of it, or inspired from it, or even vice-verse.

smile

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Huh .... it would appear it's all over You Tube ... whoda thunk it seriously, i just don't get it



It get's into full flight after about 8 minutes or so. Typical! thumbs up

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I love all of their albums and still listen to them all the time! They're a huge inspiration for me. On "Discipline" Fripp insisted that Bruford not use any hi-hats, so he ended up using things like octobans instead, which gave the album a really interesting feel, percussion wise.

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Especially when they go into that beautiful sequencerish unstoppable machine of death mode! hihi




The crazy section at 1:21 with the switch ups between 5's and 7's has to be one of the most convoluted odd meter grooves ever recorded outside of classical indian music, imo! Dead Banana
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