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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

John Noble wrote:
Low-Gain Short Bus

Thanks, I have looked at that many times at AH, but until I went to the low gain site I didn't get the full description.
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In short...the Short Bus is a dual bus OR Combiner.

Had that been the description on AH, I probably would have gotten this before.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

addac802 vc audio mixer
blue lantern the mix
circuit abbey unify
doepfer a138a,b,c (linear, log, polar)
fonitronik mh01
hinton switchmix
lowgain submix
stg .mix
manhattan analog mix
synovatron CVTools
harvestman qotile ultimatum
intellijel unity
intellijel mutamix
Cwejman MX-4S
Pittsburgh Modular audiomixer attenuator


These are all the mixers that I gathered up...out of all of these I am definitely leaning towards the addac mixer because of its CV inputs which I could then use a panner on my total mix out from the addac and that would be a lot more money saved (and 1 extra input!) than getting a Cwejman MX-4S for the same effect. Does anyone want to provide their 2cents in this? I am also wondering if I could achieve what I am talking about with a lowgain shortbus and 2 manhattan analog mix's? I would like to achieve end-mixing to the highest quality possible or at least as close as I can get to the MX-4S without having to break my bank.

If you've read this far....cheers! Guinness ftw! Guinness ftw!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

double post Guinness ftw! Guinness ftw! Guinness ftw! Guinness ftw! Guinness ftw! Guinness ftw! Guinness ftw!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

matttech wrote:

+1 ...like mine. that being said, i don't have massive problems with the Doepfer ones (the later versions of the a138b specifically...the earlier ones had bleed between the channels). not keen on the jack sockets though...the Manhattan Mix ones are much better


Couldn`t wait for the Manhattan Mixer now and bought a 138b.Swapt the LM324 to TL074.Still working,yay hihi
Figured out that the A-134-2 uses the same (LM324) and swapt them too.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well wigglers i received the addac802 last night. Here is a run down. If you plug audio into a channel with no cv the knob from full counter clockwise to just under noon you get no signal. At noon your sound will fade in (this is very sensitive control, in other words you must turn VERY slowly for a smooth mix in. When an envelope or cv is plugged in to the VCA input the knob acts as attenuater for the CV of that channel. I found it very hard to kill the signal completely with out turning down the envelope cv or attenuating the cv before hand. So you have five channels of that and the master which behaves the same. The vca's sounded nice and clean. But i could not get on with it so its on it's way back to AH. waah I really would have kept it if when you turned the attenuater ccw even with a strong cv into the amp in would zero out but thats not the case. Or at least it wasnt for me. I also started to experience some hum and grounding issues. Hope that helps. Im definetly not trying to bad mouth it mabey someone else will get on with it. I personally think it would be an excellent module with some fine tuning.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Arcade Sinusoid wrote:
Well wigglers i received the addac802 last night. Here is a run down. If you plug audio into a channel with no cv the knob from full counter clockwise to just under noon you get no signal. At noon your sound will fade in (this is very sensitive control, in other words you must turn VERY slowly for a smooth mix in. When an envelope or cv is plugged in to the VCA input the knob acts as attenuater for the CV of that channel. I found it very hard to kill the signal completely with out turning down the envelope cv or attenuating the cv before hand. So you have five channels of that and the master which behaves the same. The vca's sounded nice and clean. But i could not get on with it so its on it's way back to AH. waah I really would have kept it if when you turned the attenuater ccw even with a strong cv into the amp in would zero out but thats not the case. Or at least it wasnt for me. I also started to experience some hum and grounding issues. Hope that helps. Im definetly not trying to bad mouth it mabey someone else will get on with it. I personally think it would be an excellent module with some fine tuning.


thanks for the review, this was surprising but I'm glad I got to hear it from you before investing in it. Dead Banana
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

@ nonbot I agree fully! I really wanted to get on with it. Don't mark my words on this, but i think there are 2 versions based on what i gathered from cathartech in the addac forum. I'm thinking i got one of the first runs. Mabey an email to andre at addac will get you more information. If i could get my hands on a revised version i would definetly buy it again!
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I think I'm just going to hunker down for the Cwejman MX-4S and deal with the cost of it, having the VC controls on it are indispensable as a unit...but where to find one very frustrating
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I have the Mutamix, and I love it... Especially because I can bus signals from one output while mixing.

I've always wanted the MX-4S, the only thing holding me back actually is the size... The Mutamix has so many options for it's size, I happily overlook the mute clicks...

that said. I believe you can't put a price on the last thing in your signal chain... The MX-4S would be the most expensive module I own if it was just a bit smaller.

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

HexVCA is a 6ch voltage controlled mixer. +1 for Manhattan mix - great built quality and super clean.

What I personally need is a two channel mixer with pan control on each channel and a stereo output (obviously). simple, without CV control.

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

zvukoprocessor wrote:


What I personally need is a two channel mixer with pan control on each channel and a stereo output (obviously). simple, without CV control.


You be wanting an Azimuth

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

matttech wrote:
negativspace wrote:
Have you tried my mix? It's clean, quiet and transparent - and under $100. Only 3 channels, but only 4hp.


+1 ...like mine. that being said, i don't have massive problems with the Doepfer ones (the later versions of the a138b specifically...the earlier ones had bleed between the channels). not keen on the jack sockets though...the Manhattan Mix ones are much better


That's my big problem with Doepfer really. I think the modules are better than what a lot of people give them credit for and the clinical grey looks absolutely fine to me, but the jacks are kind of sloppy in my opinion. I like a nice, secure jack that feels like it is gripping the cable. Doepfer makes me feel like the cable is barely making contact.
That and there boards seem cheap. I have and will continue to purchase Doepfer modules though.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'm enjoying the hexVCA plus Mutamix combo very much. Just feels really tidy and sounds great.
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Drumdrumdrumdrum wrote:
zvukoprocessor wrote:


What I personally need is a two channel mixer with pan control on each channel and a stereo output (obviously). simple, without CV control.


You be wanting an Azimuth


I want Azimuth regardless cool but it has no pan control on each channel

I want that sort of mixer for e350.

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