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thetwlo
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

James Mandible wrote:

I believe it was JG Thirlwell who produced it, not Albini.


can't find. citation?
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

thetwlo wrote:
James Mandible wrote:

I believe it was JG Thirlwell who produced it, not Albini.


can't find. citation?


Allmusic

EDIT-I just realized that production credit's for the remixes he did. It appears to have been self produced. Sorry about that!

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

James Mandible wrote:
BTW are you familiar with the fact Dirk and Daniel (original members) have a new band together called Nothing But Noise? Doesn't sound much like Front 242, goes closer to Tangerine Dream than anything else, but it's a very lovely record. Sadly not much out there on youtube or anywhere else to check it out that I know of (yet)


Thanks for this, I'll definitely check it out.
http://www.nothingbutnoise.be/

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Backroads wrote:
That remix is great! I love goa as much as, if not more than, I love the 242 sound. What did you use to do it?


it's all sequenced on the Octatrack... i cut up the original song into useful 4-16 bar chunks and dedicated a track to them on the OT. then all the sounds are modular sampled by OT, including the kick and bass.
thanks for the words... i believe 242 heavily influenced the trance scene so i think this song makes sense.

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Very cool! I've often gone on record (in this forum even) touting the stylistic similarities between early ebm/industrial and goa (not the mention newer progressive psytrance). Those basslines! SlayerBadger!
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Never Stop is my fave by them. Followed closely by Front By Front and Official Version.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

saw 242 dec love them still saw paul oakenfold last night he started with a nitzer ebb remix. ebm-trance got to love it we're not worthy
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

computer controlled wrote:
Never Stop is my fave by them. Followed closely by Front By Front and Official Version.


no offense intended but Never stop and the TKK got me into this(making music), as if they can do it..... " Never stop" was the first 242 I though was pretty lame and boring and pop. I was a huge 242 fan this just sucked, when it was released, it's ok-not great now better than later stuff. And the re-incarnatation stuff is cool.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

i grew up on F242, Skinny Puppy, Nitzer Ebb, Severed Heads etc but I think I have just listened to it all way too much that they don't as much interest anymore. Headhunter is still a brilliant track!
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Listened to a lot of 242 back in the day. Can still remember the awe of seeing them during the Tyranny For You tour. To me, though, most of their stuff has aged pretty badly. Apart from the early singles, Geography and the Endless Riddance 12", that is. Those stil sound as fresh today, as when I first heard them. Geography is surely up there among the 10-20 best electronic albums ever made.
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Fuck Up Evil is a timeless album.
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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Fuck Up Evil is a timeless album.


Is it just me or does this album and 'evil off' sound really bad? I like the tracks quite a bit, but they sound super-trebley and are hard to listen to. Like a different "loudness war" type issue.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

djs wrote:
iamgoldman wrote:
Fuck Up Evil is a timeless album.


Is it just me or does this album and 'evil off' sound really bad? I like the tracks quite a bit, but they sound super-trebley and are hard to listen to. Like a different "loudness war" type issue.


I definetely agree that they sound weird, as does practically everything they've done afterwards (which isn't much, but anyway). Something definetely happened between Tyranny For You and Fuck Up Evil production/mastering-wise.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

can't believe folk slagging Albini off - the guy's a genius!

the production on things like "two nuns and a packmule" by Rapeman is AWESOME!

anyway....back to Front 242 - i always really liked this track:



you can never quite work out if it's off-beat or "on-beat".....or does it keep changing?? heard it on John Peel years ago.....cool as f**k

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Yes! I love the Backcatalog stuff and Official Version.

I also love Off Evil, such an amazing album with horrible mixing. I really hope they remix/master it one day (remix as in with a mixer).

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I love love love early Front 242. Geography has some of my favorite songs... G.V.D.T., Felines, Kampfbereit. I had Official Version on tape for years and just picked it up on CD. Very excited to listen to this one again. Love Quite Unusual immensely.

There really is something magic in Front 242's sound and also their aesthetic. It feels like punk kraftwerk to me.

Agree that their later stuff fizzled out. I feel like the whole goth/industrial 90s thing backwashed into them in a very bad way. I've been listening to some of the stuff on Pulse lately and appreciating it though.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

[quote="zedius"]I love love love early Front 242. Geography has some of my favorite songs... G.V.D.T., Felines, Kampfbereit. I had Official Version on tape for years and just picked it up on CD. Very excited to listen to this one again. Love Quite Unusual immensely.

There really is something magic in Front 242's sound and also their aesthetic. It feels like punk kraftwerk to me.

quite unusual is a great track,
played a friend GVDT he thought it was new

i think offical version def had a impact on mode when they did black celebration
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

very nice to find a F242 thread on the muffwiglers forum!

my favorite albums are Geography, Front by Front and Pulse.

thing is that i didn't like Nitzer Ebb one bit - although reading the lyrics really made me want to like them, they just didn't tickle my EARS right. it is something about the aesthetics of sound... F242 is saturated, almost material (if you allow me to say such a thing)

in case you haven't seen it, there is an in-depth retrospective interview they had at the barcelona red bull music academy thingie:



also, there is this wonderful interview from the 80s era where they stay very much in-character (and in a very coherent and tasteful manner... compared to today's artists)

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

haricots wrote:
James Mandible wrote:
BTW are you familiar with the fact Dirk and Daniel (original members) have a new band together called Nothing But Noise? Doesn't sound much like Front 242, goes closer to Tangerine Dream than anything else, but it's a very lovely record. Sadly not much out there on youtube or anywhere else to check it out that I know of (yet)


Thanks for this, I'll definitely check it out.
http://www.nothingbutnoise.be/


Just found a picture of their modular on their website

http://www.nothingbutnoise.be/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/NbN_gearporn- modular1.jpg

SlayerBadger! SlayerBadger! SlayerBadger!

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