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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 1:35 am    Post subject: -Montreal is REVOLTED tonigh !! Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Montreal is the metropolis of Quebec wich is in Canada

the city is completely crazy right now .
i live downtown and i have been assisting to citizen\student protests for months .
every day and every night the people take the streets and shout . in the last month the police has been agressively repressing the peolple using gaz like shewing gum rubber bullets like candy and sticks like horny cocks.

yesterday the quebec governement passed a special law that modify at least ten other laws (harper style) to control the students (wich are on strike ) , the protesters and put some black bars on constitutional rights like freedom of expression and fun stuff like that. (sorry for mentionning politics, this forum is too good for that, i dont want this to turn in a political discussion )

tonigh the city is on fire (litteraly) fireworks, funny smoke smell (is it police gas is it something burning i dont know ) firemans trucks are there .

the city is so full off young summer energy . its smells like anarchy , and it has the weird feel of a disproportionned party with thousands of cops invited




for a moment just under my window i saw the police loose completely the control on the situation , i saw regular citizens doing circulation cause the police seems overwhelmed .

now i just found a pic of what was hapening 50 meters downs from my window one hour ago




looks like they were having a pow-wow (now i know the smell was a fire )

its crazy i,m telling you and its happening right now



this started out as a student strike but now its becoming a wide social movement against the government . dont belive canadian medias if they say the whole thing is nothing but a bunch of angry students that refuses to start paying double the fees for university. tonigh people are protesting in defense of freedom of speech and all the other fun stuff.

i'm not saying that i am taking the side of freedom of speech and social engagement against totalitarian abuses of politics and law screaming goo yo i could get a nasty fine for that or go to prison thanks to the ''special law''
(wich i definitely ,absolutely totalitary dont have any opinion about . and i dont encourage anybody to have any opinion about it either ! i hope thats all clear cool )


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I really hope that no one gets hurt and that no one's property gets damaged.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

akrylik wrote:
I really hope that no one gets hurt and that no one's property gets damaged.


thousands of people have been beat up and arrested by the police in the last month(they are using city busses to transport the people being arrested ). but protesters keep protesting every day , . in broad daylight the protests are generaly super peacefull . but when it gets very late at night and that the number of protesters drop the police can gets vicious . and i guess some regular people too can get stupid and dangerous as well in this chaos .


it is certain that many people are seriously injuried , confrontations between citizens and police is becoming as common as ice hockey here .




banks windows and police cars have been damaged but its hard to say if its from real citizen troublemakers or disguised policemens\ state agents (they are known to generate theatrical material for the press)


things dont look that bad for the moment exept maybe for t he government.

the worst that i can imagine would be the army taking over if the police start to shit their pants exponentially . i hope things will not degenerate in crazy violence , i dont think that could happen on a large scale as citizens are also policing the troublemakers , theres seems to be an experienced tradition of peaceful street protesting in montreal ,violent individuals( who sometimes are undercover cops) are often controlled by the crowd . i even saw earlyer today policemens holding back a berserk policemen while protesters were holding a berserk protester

i woulnt want to be in the police tonight (even less than usually) . for the first time in my life (since teenage years )i actually feel bad for those poor workers . they must be suffering as much as anybody right now from the edgy politic situation .
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

It's increasingly difficult to avoid politics or anti-politics as the world increasingly requires positive change, and action is the only path.

The students are protesting a 75% fee hike over a five-year period. They are righteous. Thanks for the pic, stealing and posting it elsewhere!
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

crazy. i clearly havent been paying enough attention; first i've heard of it. should make interesting starting point for a pan-canadian jam session tonight tho.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

That's insane! I was in Montreal a couple of years ago, and its such a beautiful city. I can't believe this is happening there. Stay safe!
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

wow. this is the first I've heard of it too. not a word of it mentioned in any of the news I read frequently; very disconcerting.

Montreal is a beautiful city, I was fortunate to spend a week there on vacation a couple years ago and have nothing but great memories. Really hope no one gets hurt but in these situations tensions run too high and some people forget what the real purpose is for being out there and start to do stupid shit.

Thanks for posting transistor logic, stay safe

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I loved my experience in Montreal, only time yet I played out of the US. Very beautiful city and social climate. Unfortunately, instead of acting like the servants they are, most governments like to try calling the shots for people and foster gullibility. The nicer the place is, the more of a shame it is when things break down like this. If a government can't even negotiate with it's own citizenry, so far as I am concerned, it is useless.

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 8:32 am    Post subject: Re: -Montreal is REVOLTED tonigh !! Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I saw the footage live from http://cutvmontreal.ca
Its the place to go to get informed, not the mass media. They follow the manifestations live.

I work in a university (my office is one corner away from that picture) and I'm also a student in this university. I've seen (and been part of) student strikes in the past, but never seen something like this. It's getting crazy.


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: -Montreal is REVOLTED tonigh !! Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Jim's computer beats wrote:
transistor logic wrote:
Montreal is the capital of Quebec wich is in Canada


For the sake of accuracy, Quebec city is the capital of Quebec, not Montreal.




sorry i meant metropolis or whatever english word means the biggest city.

i will change my first post . there is enough is enough disinformation in canada already !
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It's increasingly difficult to avoid politics or anti-politics as the world increasingly requires positive change, and action is the only path.

The students are protesting a 75% fee hike over a five-year period. They are righteous. Thanks for the pic, stealing and posting it elsewhere!


if you were in quebec right now you could get a nasty fine for saying they are righteous and encouraging them if i understand the new law correctly . thats what is totally nuts . and that is why yesterday the people got completely pissed off on a massive scale . the government was trying to stop the student crisis (i assume ) but he generated an exponentially bigger social crisis by passing an unconstitutional law .


usually i ignore society and politics as i don't believe in those anymore and they are just making me cynical . the news make me vomit so i try to stay away from them . but right now all this is hard to ignore . i don't even know if i'm sad or happy about the situation .




if you guys want to see images from the situation i second cutv :
http://cutvmontreal.ca/

all that the mass medias shows is a couple of kids trowing stuff at the police and they try to reduce the phenomenon to that ,


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Yeah I was "surrounded" by the protest 2 days ago on my way back from chinatown... had to stop walking on a corner(ste-cath/clark or something) and randomly my friend appeared so we had a nice chat on the situation while there were protesters walking on everyblocks... Police vans filled with riot armored police rushed in a direction and 10 minutes later, the street became again a pedestrian one smile

But TL is right, it's a straight up breach to basic rights and liberty of expression/opinion we are dealing with... This government's ministers are commonly dining with notorious mafia members and was elected by 24% or so of the people (because again people don't go to vote) and then is lecturing protestor on their legitimacy... Cynical! It's also the most corrupted regime we have had since the 50's (many public enquiries are going on and so far many results are really appealing) but it's also, sadly, 100% backed by the rest of Canada's "elite" for some bogus ideological mental block...

MA6-T va craquer qu'ils disent... maybe it will be to be a prototype of a new way of doing things... Lets hope it's all for a better at the end!!!

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I don't know much about canadian politics, but I do know a lot about world politics. The world is pretty messed up at this point. There's is no democracy. It has been so corrupted that nothing short of a VIOLENT revolution could change anything.

We will see much more of this, from all around the globe. And I welcome it. I think it's fucking embarrasing how 1 BILLION people are starving, while celebrities are allowed to eat gold.

No, I'm not a commie (you idiot).

ps. Sorry if this offends anyone, but I'm pretty upset about the state of things.
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i am completely stoked !! here is some decent coverage of the situation in montreal from a national media . i guess that the press don't appreciate cut on liberty of expression , or maybe now its to big to be denied

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/05/19/quebec-tuition -crisis-law-reaction.html
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and here is coverage of yesterday night with a close pic of the fire .

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/05/20/quebec-tuition -crisis-law-reaction.html

this is just down my street , my gf went look at the site of the fire this morning and talked to a local lady who said the fire was probably framed by the police .
it is very plausible , the fire seems to have been started in a very organized fashion , it was started with a stack of bicycle wheels cleanly
tied togheter by some guys who fled right away , you would think a protester would have stayed to enjoy the flames with the rest of the folks . although i have to admit it was pretty stinky


there are tons of police disguised as douchbags around here , making trouble , intimidating strikers and they seems to love to hang out just down my window . either that or they are just real retarded turbo douchbags but that is hard to believe . anyway , it seems people are just are not afraid
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Can anyone point me to an English translation of this Bill 78 please?
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Visiting Montreal as we speak. We avoided the clashes but heard the sirens and helicopters all night. 'Twas rather eerie.
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deastman wrote:
I can't believe this is happening there.


I can. Remember when Guns 'n' Roses refused to play in 1992? Or when the Montreal Canadians won the Stanley Cup in '93. Civil unrest is in Quebec's blood.

But this is very different. These new Bills are totally outrageous and despite the fact that public opinion seemed to favour the government, I somehow don't think the people of Quebec will stand for these extreme measures.

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...a local lady who said the fire was probably framed by the police .
it is very plausible


Do you remember the Security and Prosperity Partnership meeting in Montebello in 2007? The SQ planted 3 agents provocateurs to cause shit. The people that were protesting wanted no part in their violence and turned against them. Then they were outed because people recognized their Police issued combat boots. It was all caught on camera and broadcasted on every news channel. It was beautiful. The police admitted to doing it sometime later.

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Arturo00 wrote:
agents provocateurs to cause shit...


They often do! Some kind of RF frequency meter might help. The only reason cops and agents appear to be more organized is that they are connected via radio. Undercover cops are often "wired for sound", don't feel bad about shaking people down if their electromagnetic emissions are likely to compromise everybody.
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transistor logic wrote:
...a local lady who said the fire was probably framed by the police .
it is very plausible


Do you remember the Security and Prosperity Partnership meeting in Montebello in 2007? The SQ planted 3 agents provocateurs to cause shit. The people that were protesting wanted no part in their violence and turned against them. Then they were outed because people recognized their Police issued combat boots. It was all caught on camera and broadcasted on every news channel. It was beautiful. The police admitted to doing it sometime later.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2007/08/23/police-montebello.html



thats the exact footage i saw that opened my eyes on this phenomenon. afterward when i saw them down my window i recognized them instantly , they were screaming un-subtile propaganda like they were some retarded conservative douchbags . i guess for people in the street getting insulted and called terrorists by an ugly mofo, anger and hate is blinding but for me , watching from my window as the suspicious guy repeat his speech over and over to everyone , what he is up to is pretty obvious .
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transistor logic wrote:
Peake wrote:
It's increasingly difficult to avoid politics or anti-politics as the world increasingly requires positive change, and action is the only path.

The students are protesting a 75% fee hike over a five-year period. They are righteous. Thanks for the pic, stealing and posting it elsewhere!


if you were in quebec right now you could get a nasty fine for saying they are righteous and encouraging them if i understand the new law correctly . thats what is totally nuts . and that is why yesterday the people got completely pissed off on a massive scale . the government was trying to stop the student crisis (i assume ) but he generated an exponentially bigger social crisis by passing an unconstitutional law .


usually i ignore society and politics as i don't believe in those anymore and they are just making me cynical . the news make me vomit so i try to stay away from them . but right now all this is hard to ignore . i don't even know if i'm sad or happy about the situation .




if you guys want to see images from the situation i second cutv :
http://cutvmontreal.ca/

all that the mass medias shows is a couple of kids trowing stuff at the police and they try to reduce the phenomenon to that ,


I spend most of my time working with the Occupy movement so I've been following the Montreal protests; the new anti-protest "law" and draconian tuition hikes to line rich people's pockets just shows government has lost its mind and must be changed...same as here in the States. HR347 makes it a felony to protest in areas the secret service has deemed "special". It's not democracy if they don't listen.

This weekend, there are large protests in Chicago against NATO and the military-industrial complex and its endless wars for oil. Soldiers are returning their medals, calling them "bullshit".

And why are people here automatically frightened of a mass of righteous students? Even in Montebello Canada IIRC, cops dressed as protesters attempted to get other protesters violent and destructive, but were caught and unmasked. The city had to apologize. Agents provocateurs everywhere...
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despite all this political fiasco , the weather is beautiful in montreal this weekend and people are taking the time to enjoy it .
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i heard a long story on NPR a month ago about how the venues are being pressured to not have any kind of Hip Hop (urban music) nights and they are essentially making it a law and witholding liquor licenses and things like that. and also profiling people who appear to be a part of hip hop culture.. which sounds like a total mess.

sounds pretty insane all around.

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Sigh. In fact, at this moment, riot cops are kettling Chicago protesters and livestream feeds are going out...

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/crossxbones

This is my last post on the subject as this is not a political forum. Sorry Muff.


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i heard a long story on NPR a month ago about how the venues are being pressured to not have any kind of Hip Hop (urban music) nights and they are essentially making it a law and witholding liquor licenses and things like that. and also profiling people who appear to be a part of hip hop culture.. which sounds like a total mess.

sounds pretty insane all around.


were is that happening ?
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transistor logic wrote:
ignatius wrote:
i heard a long story on NPR a month ago about how the venues are being pressured to not have any kind of Hip Hop (urban music) nights and they are essentially making it a law and witholding liquor licenses and things like that. and also profiling people who appear to be a part of hip hop culture.. which sounds like a total mess.

sounds pretty insane all around.


were is that happening ?


montreal.

edit: at least that's what i thought.. according to the very long interview i heard on NPR. i didn't follow up on it though. they interview a few local people involved in the hip hop scene in montreal.. promoters and stuff.

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despite all this political fiasco , the weather is beautiful in montreal this weekend and people are taking the time to enjoy it .


I spent the day at Tam tam today. It was amazing. Such a vibrant community. There really is no place like it on earth.

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Peake wrote:
Sigh. In fact, at this moment, riot cops are kettling Chicago protesters and livestream feeds are going out...

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/crossxbones

This is my last post on the subject as this is not a political forum. Sorry Muff.


i have been hesitating for two weeks before starting this thread, but yesterday it was so crazy that i had to share it . i was afraid it might degenerate in nasty political discussion but you guys have been pretty cool about it .

all this is getting in the way of my wiggling though , got some catching up to do in that department so ill get down to it now
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ignatius wrote:
transistor logic wrote:
ignatius wrote:
i heard a long story on NPR a month ago about how the venues are being pressured to not have any kind of Hip Hop (urban music) nights and they are essentially making it a law and witholding liquor licenses and things like that. and also profiling people who appear to be a part of hip hop culture.. which sounds like a total mess.

sounds pretty insane all around.


were is that happening ?


montreal.

edit: at least that's what i thought.. according to the very long interview i heard on NPR. i didn't follow up on it though. they interview a few local
people involved in the hip hop scene in montreal.. promoters and stuff.




oh shit really , and there i was blasting nwa and cypress hill classics at the window!!
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Can anyone point me to an English translation of this Bill 78 please?


here at the bottom of this page you can see the english version of the special law :

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/05/18/quebec-student -protest-law-bill-78.html
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Living not to far from downtown and also going to Concordia university I haven't really seen much of the rioting which feels odd...but man when the habs lost... those riots were felt.
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video footage of yesterdays fire down my street

http://cutvmontreal.ca/videos/1244

its weird , the firemens got there but then didn't stop the fire and went away ???
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Be safe sweet Wigglers if you are in this area of unrest! Hug
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What's funny is how quick they are to send the troops bashing more or less peaceful protestor who are fighting for their rights while they let things go with the flow with the excuse of not wanting things to go worst when 20 times more douchebags are breaking shit after a hockey games... it's all about ideology...
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they arrested what seems to be like 100 people or more, again right down my window . they are loading a fourth city bus full of citizens under arrest right now .
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18121448
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Someone get this man a beer!

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

a star is born in montreal



here is the video that made her famous :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W05MoKEEYAk


its hard not to laugh if you watch the whole thing . look at her face at the end love


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

after the brutal weekend (19 and 20 mai) we had two days of massive peacefull marches.(so far) todays march was especially massive and joyfull .

i ran into it comming back from work . people were screaming so loud and cheerfully i got goosebump





*edit : i just read there are 400 000 people in the street today
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

transistor logic wrote:
after the brutal weekend (19 and 20 mai) we had two days of massive peacefull marches.(so far) todays march was especially massive and joyfull .

i ran into it comming back from work . people were screaming so loud and cheerfully i got goosebump





*edit : i just read there are 400 000 people in the street today


Tonight wasn't as somber as what you described above. I got caught up in a very large and long showdown between police and protesters/bystanders. I'm a little reluctant to call a lot of the people protestors because there were so many people that were just there more out of curiosity then anything, myself included.

I'm in Montreal for work. My hotel is not so far from Ste-Catherine St so I decided to go for a walk. About an hour later I found myself swarmed by 10s of thousands of people and police in riot gear and on horseback. After the main group of protesters had been dispersed, the police held down all the intersections.

I stuck around and couldn't help notice how the police patrolled the crowd. They essentially had 20 or so police on foot and 5 or 6 on horse on each block. They wouldn't let anyone go between blocks on Ste-Catherine st. They were somewhat aggressive, but very firm. I witnessed two arrests and multiple yelling matches. It was interesting to witness.

Very intense to say the least. I shot a lot of video and took a lot of pictures.

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

transistor logic wrote:
a star is born in montreal


Give a person a badge and club, and it often skews their perception of when force is “justified”...
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My first thought upon seeing Anarchopanda was Aphex Twin's "Donkey Rhubarb" video...brrr...
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Arturo00 wrote:
transistor logic wrote:
after the brutal weekend (19 and 20 mai) we had two days of massive peacefull marches.(so far) todays march was especially massive and joyfull .

i ran into it comming back from work . people were screaming so loud and cheerfully i got goosebump





*edit : i just read there are 400 000 people in the street today


Tonight wasn't as somber as what you described above. I got caught up in a very large and long showdown between police and protesters/bystanders. I'm a little reluctant to call a lot of the people protestors because there were so many people that were just there more out of curiosity then anything, myself included.

I'm in Montreal for work. My hotel is not so far from Ste-Catherine St so I decided to go for a walk. About an hour later I found myself swarmed by 10s of thousands of people and police in riot gear and on horseback. After the main group of protesters had been dispersed, the police held down all the intersections.

I stuck around and couldn't help notice how the police patrolled the crowd. They essentially had 20 or so police on foot and 5 or 6 on horse on each block. They wouldn't let anyone go between blocks on Ste-Catherine st. They were somewhat aggressive, but very firm. I witnessed two arrests and multiple yelling matches. It was interesting to witness.

Very intense to say the least. I shot a lot of video and took a lot of pictures.



be carefull at night especially. if you walk toward police troups make sure there is no robocops comming from behind . i just came back from jamming with friends and my corner was completely blocked from all angles . the police love my corner to make thier massive move\arrestation and it takes hours to process the people being arrested . so basically i could not get home (i'm right on the corner of st-denis sherbrooke ) and i had no identity card with my adress up to date . so i went to take a beer downtown and came back 45 minutes later . on the way back i talked to a police officer and he told me something like 300 hundred arrestations were made . it was obvious this would take a long time . so i came back to the police line thats the closest to my home . tryed one or two time to convince police officers to let me get home . finally an officer came on our side of the line telling people that it would be blocked a long time and that they are loosing their time , i told him i live right on the corner and that i have no proof of adress on me but i have my key and if someone escorted me to my door i would be happy .

if you have to deal with the police , be as nice and patient as you can . and try to spot the smiling cop , they are always more helpfull .
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Quebec has the lowest cost of tuition, and they still bitch.

Fucking seperate already.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Lame. This thread has somehow stayed, for the most part, non-political, sans the bill 78 outrage. There are enough grumpy threads on the forum.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

alexP wrote:
Quebec has the lowest cost of tuition, and they still bitch.
Fucking seperate already.
alexP


Give me a break. Just because the rest of us are ripped off doesn't mean they aren't allowed to 'bitch'. That's a fucked up way to look at it. Are you a man or sheep?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

alexP wrote:
Quebec has the lowest cost of tuition, and they still bitch.

Fucking seperate already.


alexP


Quebecers pay more taxes and they expect more services. As simple as that.
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They have really cheap rents in Montreal, too. That's another reason why there's such a healthy arts community -on top of the cultural "support" that no one else in Canada seems to get (or understand.)
The Quebec gov't is apprehensive about pursuing mining and all their resources because they'll lose transfer subsidies from the gov't of Canada.
Someone has to say enough is enough though. Here we get pepper sprayed or tasered or shot in the head- after six shots to the body, if you're still crawling around.

Except for those "supposed" hockey "fans"
-they're still making charges over a year later. Got a survey call about my perception of the police last week.
Funny just as soon as the phone camera
footage comes out about the guy getting shot in the head for no good reason.

IMHO most of the gov't MP's across
our land are just lining theirs (and their friends) pockets and waiting for the sweet
retirements they voted for themselves after
a 4 year minimum term in office.
Our CRTC sold out to the handful of TV/landline/cable providers- who are now the channel owners AND the content providers AND they get to report how well this monopoly is going for themselves to
the CRTC! CRTC calls it vertical-structuring not a monopoly. I'll bet they're cutting the smaller city news stations and all public broadcasting channels next- to make profits like banks- I digress.

Montreal is a beautiful city and I too hope no one gets hurt being democratic. The politicians certainly ain't democratic.
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krz

Good post.

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Thanks. Seems like when politicians are doing their "job" they're from another universe. So much waste. Are we going
to de-evolve as the gap between rich
and poor widens? All the best and kudos to the students for saying WTF!
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Why do some people think that "I 'm just doing my job" is a valid argument?
Whatever you do, it is your responsibility. When you are a pepperspraying all over the place on a peacefull protest, It's your choice. Don't try to cover that with fake logic. You could say no to your commander, stand up against injustice like those protesters do. These cops are on the wrong side of history. in a few years we will see zuccotti park as the tianmen square of our time.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Cops should be accountable of their action, even when it comes from above... i.e: If a Doctor tells a nurse to give a certain dose of something to a patient and she believes it's wrong but gives it anyway, she will be liable for the situation if anything would happen to the patient as a result of wrong dosage... Cops should be under the same type of direct liability... But yeas, I agree, they are on the wrong side of history and their title and reason to be is being spoiled by the rich class who instrumentalize them...
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