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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| It looks like the original Tree servers are down, but the recordings are out there in the wild. I grabbed quite a few of them years ago, and there are definitely some great concerts to be heard here. My favorites were those from about 1974-1977. |
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Morley Super Deluxe Wiggler
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I think Froese asked them to stop at a certain point.
I have tons of them. Some are just interesting and ok-ish, but others are great.
Then again, I'm a massive 1970-1980 TD fan. _________________ www.davidmorley.com
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Morley wrote: | I think Froese asked them to stop at a certain point.
I have tons of them. Some are just interesting and ok-ish, but others are great.
Then again, I'm a massive 1970-1980 TD fan. |
Yes, he did. I guess this was because he used many of these recordings for his own releases a little while ago.
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| doombient.music wrote: | Yes, he did. I guess this was because he used many of these recordings for his own releases a little while ago.
Stephen |
Astute, to boot.
Mr Froese has a tendency to covet any collaboration regardless of his contribution. For instance, the latest re-re-release of "Phaedra 2005". WTF
EDITED to add more gas to the fire;
I'm a TD fan for sure and respect the contribution to EM over the years, but crass commercial offerings like the one mentioned is just too putrid for me.
If 1970's Berlin School sequencing free-form is so vital then do that instead of softcore digital saxophone elevator music. _________________ OpenTape
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:04 am Post subject: |
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I remember listening to a few of them during my last big TD binge but all of the ones I listened to were so bad in quality that I couldn't get through them and there were so many it was hard to go through them all to find ones that were keepers.
Anyone got any recs on a combo of best sound quality/best performance? |
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| kindredlost wrote: | | doombient.music wrote: | Yes, he did. I guess this was because he used many of these recordings for his own releases a little while ago.
Stephen |
Astute, to boot.
Mr Froese has a tendency to covet any collaboration regardless of his contribution. For instance, the latest re-re-release of "Phaedra 2005". WTF[...] |
I was desperately looking for a CD copy of his "Epsilon in Malaysian Pale" album (the best of his solo albums in my book) and was delighted to learn that it was available in its entirety on the recent "Virgin Years" box set... just to learn he had messed with the original recordings (like smearing D50 factory patches all over the place... the infamous process of "Tangentizing", as they call it in TD fan circles).
Thus, I did not hesitate to buy an original copy of "Epsilon" showing up on eBay, even though it was quite pricey...
As much as I admire Froese for his original musical vision and his work ethics of the early TD years, I despise everything he has come up with since Schmoelling left. Elevator music that ruins what "Tangerine Dream" was originally representing. I´d feel ashamed if I was him.
Stephen _________________ German tourists, part 753:
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:04 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Stephen.
Sad music since about the time they moved to Baumann's label.
Epsilon is a superb record. Took me a while to find my CD copies but worth it. Now I have 2 of everything Virgin/Brain released by Edgar..
How such a creative and original artist could end up releasing the nauseating stuff of the last 20 years I don't know. _________________ www.davidmorley.com
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| I saw them play recently at Moogfest, and it was hands down one of the cheesiest sets of music I have seen in my whole life, really horrid guitar noodling and such, though they did have a stunning backing drummer. |
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| boom blip wrote: | | I saw them play recently at Moogfest, and it was hands down one of the cheesiest sets of music I have seen in my whole life, really horrid guitar noodling and such, though they did have a stunning backing drummer. |
"I am Jack´s total lack of surprise." (Edward Norton -- "Fight Club")
I think TD´s output has been terrible ever since Schmoelling left the band. But I believe I´ve already pointed that out elsewhere...
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:40 am Post subject: |
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lots of stuff on youtube too
such as
_________________ I just like weird music and adventures in sound |
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| doombient.music wrote: | | kindredlost wrote: | | doombient.music wrote: | Yes, he did. I guess this was because he used many of these recordings for his own releases a little while ago.
Stephen |
Astute, to boot.
Mr Froese has a tendency to covet any collaboration regardless of his contribution. For instance, the latest re-re-release of "Phaedra 2005". WTF[...] |
I was desperately looking for a CD copy of his "Epsilon in Malaysian Pale" album (the best of his solo albums in my book) and was delighted to learn that it was available in its entirety on the recent "Virgin Years" box set... just to learn he had messed with the original recordings (like smearing D50 factory patches all over the place... the infamous process of "Tangentizing", as they call it in TD fan circles).
Thus, I did not hesitate to buy an original copy of "Epsilon" showing up on eBay, even though it was quite pricey...
As much as I admire Froese for his original musical vision and his work ethics of the early TD years, I despise everything he has come up with since Schmoelling left. Elevator music that ruins what "Tangerine Dream" was originally representing. I´d feel ashamed if I was him.
Stephen |
oh no! I've just ordered the Virgin Years compilation on the basis that someone on Amazon said the EiMP was not the messed with version.
Maybe it's a different compilation
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Solo-1974-1983-The-Virgin-Years/dp/B007JU5HSO/ ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1340358426&sr=1-1
I too hate the added synthvox stuff that turned up on the Phaedra 2005 album, I think the Orange Light Years stuff also had synthvox'd versions. _________________ a bunch of stuff
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I've got that Virgin Years comp and Epsilon is un-messed with _________________ I just like weird music and adventures in sound |
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:19 am Post subject: |
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I can imagine that to start with edgar did the typical thing of saying it was re-recorded so that Virgin didn't have the rights to the recordings. They were of course just overdubbed.
Just a theory... _________________ www.davidmorley.com
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for pointing out all of the Tangerine Tree and the lesser quality Tangerine Leaves recordings. I really like a lot of the ones I have found over the last few weeks. They are much more atmospheric than the typical lp releases from 1974-1980. I have a new profound fondness for Tangerine Dream. They have always been one of my favorites in e-music since hearing them in the 70's, but this barrage of atmospheric recordings w/ Michael Hoenig, Steve Shroyder and all of the Bauman years has opened my ears!!!! Just awesome to hear the evolution year to year as the line up, techniques, expertise and equipment changed. And not so much guitar noodling either.
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