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Another tempest in a teapot amongst people that have more in common than differences. WHo-Hooo!! The fun of it all.
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| vav wrote: | | OH GOOD ANOTHER DEADMAU5 THREAD THIS WILL END WELL |
Lulz yup. Promaus factions vs Antimaus vs all the rest of us who have exactly zero fucks to give about any of it. All things end with a whimper.
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| ignatius wrote: | | EDM gets an eye roll from me everytime I see/hear the acronym. |
Same. It seems to me that Americans (and maybe Canadians, I'm not really sure) are the only ones that use it. I've only noticed it in the last few years as electronic music has started to come out of the underground in the US, but maybe it's been around for longer than that.
As far as the whole deadmaus/gerald thing, I think they're both doing a disservice to themselves and to electronic musicians in general.
I also think that if deadmaus is right about how easy his live show is he should prove it by franchising himself out, nobody can see who's under the big head anyway.
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One of those grating shorthand labels like "electronica" was in the late 90s.
Deadmaus franchising himself like the Wiggles or Hi-5 - I'd like to see that!
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I have no great feeling either way but I have to say some words to defend the man from Manchester:
| Quote: | | if anyone has the right to be the grumpy old man of dance music its Gerald |
that is both fair and unfair. He does have the right because he invented a good chunk of it, and more than one. But from what I've seen of him actually the dude is pretty positive about what he's doing and still in love with the music and promise of the scene. He definitely still cares.
| Quote: | | Another tempest in a teapot amongst people that have more in common than differences. |
that just won't cut it Kent. You really can't compare the latest mass market flavour of the month with one of the founders of acid house, drum and bass and techno, who is still making some really good records. All these two guys really share is some BPMs.
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| vmgas wrote: | | 10th wave ska |
I think I still remember how to skank.
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I actually thought he was just being fairly honest and realistic, much better than if he was trying to say how hard he is working and creative he is being on stage.
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Its fine for him to admit that all he does is press play, but to claim that everyone else does is a little misinformed to say the least. I think where he went wrong was to omit that he was just talking about others like him who's primary motivation is big money, rather than artistic integrity, or trying to do something with a little more skill than playing slight variations on formulaic 'hits'
I can understand Gerald's annoyance, but it was worded poorly.
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100% with gerald, been a huge fan for many years, his was one one of the very first web sites i ever went to in 1995, and i have the utmost respect for him! i've never heard dead mouse 5 or whatever he's called, and have no intention of seeking out his sounds, never have...
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| dequalsrxt wrote: | | vmgas wrote: | | 10th wave ska |
I think I still remember how to skank.
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whoa. music is fucked up.
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Hehe. Thanks for the ska prompt though. I recovered my skanking memories.
I ain't never heard this dead mouse shit before, so I have nothing to offer in that area.
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| vmgas wrote: | | dequalsrxt wrote: | | vmgas wrote: | | 10th wave ska |
I think I still remember how to skank.
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whoa. music is fucked up. |
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both guys are not my style but gerald sounds like a bitter, ranting man. did he even read the post or just got suckered by the title: we all push play. there isn't much more to do in a live electronic set. you have to hit play to get things going. but he actually feeds synths midi and tweaks them live FFS! he doesn't have the chops for keys or whatever so that's about it. i personally am excited that electronic music is more mainstream. more people 'get' what i am doing these days but I also don't bother to play out anymore. like deadmaus says: it is all about what happens in the studio. that is where i focus my time and energies.
now where's that nuke button....for jazzy electronica |
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Deadmau5 isn't my cup of tea, but I find ska to be rather delectable
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| mojopin wrote: | we all push play. there isn't much more to do in a live electronic set. you have to hit play to get things going. but he actually feeds synths midi and tweaks them live FFS! he doesn't have the chops for keys or whatever so that's about it. i personally am excited that electronic music is more mainstream. more people 'get' what i am doing these days but I also don't bother to play out anymore. like deadmaus says: it is all about what happens in the studio. that is where i focus my time and energies.
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I disagree, there is plenty to do in a live electronic set and to state otherwise aside from showing lack of knowledge, only serves to reinforce the stereotype that a live performance is only about the Simpleton Live laptop jockey unmuting stems an putting their hands in the air, Oh so you tweaked the filter, round of applause, but hey check out the dazzling visuals 
And it has nothing to do with chops or keyboard skills either and everything to do with being lazy, safe and uninspiring - except perhaps to mindless sheep, who don't realise or perhaps care that there is plenty of great music waiting to be discovered, the type that are quite happy to be spoonfed what the media giants want to sell them, wouldn't call them music lovers though.
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| darenager wrote: | | JohnLRice wrote: |
I actually thought he was just being fairly honest and realistic, much better than if he was trying to say how hard he is working and creative he is being on stage.
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Its fine for him to admit that all he does is press play, but to claim that everyone else does is a little misinformed to say the least. |
Back in the late '80's till the end of the nineties I was a PA engineer in the north of england, I used to operate FOH or monitors for bands, electronica acts, dj's etc at various levels. I saw plenty of electronica acts where there was some meaningful level of performance, but OTOH probably as many who did just press play. For some reason one stands out, a mid-level crusty techno act who's performance was basically muting and unmuting channels on a mixer. He had one of those roland samplers with a monitor out on it, it was hooked up to a VDU and part of his "performance" was swapping from one screen to another. i guess ppl in the audience thought it was doing something. He had some classic polysynth onstage - memory says it was a JP8 though as it was a while ago i may be remembering that bit wrong. I was listening out for it - bear in mind as well that I was doing monitors and was pretty close up to this guy, I swear that machine did not utter one sound for the course of his set. I saw enough people doing similar over the years, a PA disguised as a performance. I used to get pissed off about it. I don't give a fuck about deadmau5 (i hate music where the kick drum sucks the mix down each time it hits) but I thought his was a good/worthwhile post and I can see how if you're playing that kind of big gig w/synchronised lights, the heavy pressure is just to play back prerecorded stems w minor twiddling over the top. I can see it being v v unfullfilling to play, but OTOH I wish I was on his money. I like guy called gerald's music but thought his piece somewhat incoherent.
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