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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

sgnhh wrote:
i wonder if some people are letting their favorite modules cloud their judgement. make noise as most innovative, really?


Absolutely Make Noise! Have you ever used Rene, phonogene or the Echophon? And even the modules that are based on older technology, they've still managed to make them unique.

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i've owned the phonogene... maybe the rene is his most innovative device.

the echophon is a hardware implementation of software, i wouldn't call it innovative, no matter how fun it is to use. tony's work is mostly variations on other people's work.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Doepfer. Started the format and makes some amazing modules. Unfortunately, it's very overlooked at times.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I think all of them, basically. although there are clearly different ways of innovating. some innovate by porting over software technology and giving them cv control, some innovate by combining different existing circuit designs, some innovate by re-implementation of designs but using different components and adding new cv control, some innovate just by creating new interfaces, the list is endless!

I do have to give personal points to the E340, E350, and Phonogene.
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cylonix, for the cyclebox. simply for all the crazy ways to combine the waveforms. never ever heard of some of these types of synthesis before this module.....maybe they’re not all new, but some must be.

the whole package is definitely what i’d call innovative.

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matttech wrote:
cylonix, for the cyclebox. simply for all the crazy ways to combine the waveforms. never ever heard of some of these types of synthesis before this module.....maybe they’re not all new, but some must be.

the whole package is definitely what i’d call innovative.



Now you got me really interested in this thing... I was already with GAS after watching de videos...
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polyroy wrote:
Doepfer. Started the format and makes some amazing modules. Unfortunately, it's very overlooked at times.


seconded. Who else has a dedicated PLL, theremin module, ribbon controller, and a Bit Reduction module? LFO --> Bit Reduction --> Pitch Quantizer is what I'd like to see. Awesome melodies could be had.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'd say Make Noise and Intellijel, 4ms too for the PEG.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

It's tough, as larger companies have lots of basic modules.
So, I think about all are...
Most innovative? maybe Wiard, but not truly a euro co. and the 300 series is where it's really at.
Also, The Harvestman and Make Noise would be up there. Even things like the Phonogene and Echophon just because the owner didn't do the coding, (both by Gotherman? with Erbe's SH code) doesn't mean they aren't innovative. I can't think of a module before that was anything like them.
I wouldn't put Doepfer up there, this was a pretty boring place before others jumped in. They have many great unique modules, especially the A-101-3 and the BBD modules. For many they were asking us for input. Great, love that, but it's not really "innovation" on their part. I like the Doepfer stuff but, I really wouldn't call most of the modules "innovative." We owe them a lot for certain, for bringing affordable modules and modular back of course.


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I would have to disagree with a golden cat award. Too obvious.

It would have to be a golden unicorn shooting penises from a gun. Something the manufacturers of modules would be proud to display for friends and family.

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automaton wrote:
I would have to disagree with a golden cat award. Too obvious..


but they're cheap and easy to find!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

polyroy wrote:
Doepfer. Started the format and makes some amazing modules. Unfortunately, it's very overlooked at times.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Wasn't "state of the art of 1966" the Make Noise slogan? I think that fits the modular world perfectly.

The modular feels rather primitive to me, which is part of its charm. I don't think like I am at the pinnacle of innovation when I play it, but I feel like I am in alternate timeline. A place where unwieldy, expensive and hard to come by electronics still rule. Its like the Battlestar Galactica of the new series - an old heap of unconnected electronics that managed to survive the Cylon onslaught because of its old-fashioned design (I must have looked at my Cyclebox too long last night).

Within the Euro format, the sonic textures that feel the most "new" to me (with the limited 12U I have) are from The Harvestman, Cyclebox and Metasonix.

The most innovative designer in my opinion is Expert Sleepers - seamless DAW integration expands the modular endlessly.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

mudlogger wrote:
innovative?

I look at innovative modules and its pretty much all the designers.
Modules that are not rehashed or available in any other format.

The newer makenoise stuff - like the Phonogene / Echophon.
ADDAC for stuff like Marble Physics.
I think WMD is really innovative especially with stuff like the PDO.
4ms for the PEG - must be well up there - one of a kind module.
Even Snazzyfx for Ardcore.

There should be a Eurorack Oscars - that would be very funny.


Well the ardcore is actually not the first to implement arduino in eurorack, that was the vcc from addac. However that dreamboat chaotic oscillator is pretty unique!
I find the Euro Oscars actually a great idea!
How abou seven cathegories: Best overall module, best module utility, best module sound shaping, best module sound production, best diy, best manufacturer performance and best

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So, now I took a look at that E355 (how did I miss it before?? d'oh!) and feel like I can't not nominate Synthesis Technology too! This is fun!

Judging by the modules offered, each of them appears to be innovative above average thumbs up

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:52 am    Post subject: First Look Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I love Make Noise; phonogene and ecophon - new ways of using old ideas
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'd say:
WMD
Plan B
Makenoise and Harvestman equal too


but I like many more all for different reasons wink


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

ok... innovator maybe :

- manufacturer that has introduced new technologies or new way to built module (does this apply? i do not know, maybe the skiff-friendly modules ...)

- manufacturer that have put in euro format functionality existing somewhere else but with great improvement in usability

- manufacturer that have created module with functions never seen before nowhere

have you an example for these category?

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new functions never seen before : ADDAC (marble physics, lissajou, nunchuck,...)
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