Muff's Modules & More

[sascha.victoria]

Did a little calibration on my saved External Instruments this morning and now all my MIDI is tickin in time when I record it in. BOOYA! No more sliding things over or listening to everything slightly out of sync while I make my tracks. FUCKIN BEST ABLETON TIP IN YEARS!

[Arturo00]

I have a 505, 707, 808 and 909 synced by an msq100 and this sort of behavior is common for me, though I don't know if it's that big've a delay. I use Cubase 5.5 with an RME fireface 800. My MIDI cable is like 25ft long so I always assumed it was just lag from the MIDI signal. I've also noticed that different drum machines have different start delays.

I just zoom in and manually nudge the tracks to zero and make sure everything is ok down the line.

[BHC303]

I never get the results I am looking for when I play with the track delay settings? its almost like they don't do anything

Whats everyone using in there abletons preferences in regards to delay compensation?

I use a motu ultralite also, when I did the built in test there was almost no delay but I get massive delay when recording anything

I have got a sync lock recently, I still need to measure the sample off set from a recording taken in live in another audio editor, something that can measure in samples on a grid, then I can adjust the synclock by this amount to line it up, another work around would be to do the above minus the synclock and adjust the track delay by samples (how ever many samples are out of time)

Someone else mentions the crappy timing of live (computer) and trying to record MD and Mono I almost gave up!

[sascha.victoria]

Is it the timing of Live or the MD/MnM? Because when I use my CR8000 that thing is pretty rock solid and just needs to be nudged over. Same goes for my 909.

[Oldstench]

[giorgio]

testing now, without touching any settings Ableton live 8.3.3 running mountian lion. motu midi express xt via usb and midi from there to the 909. audio from the 909 to my firewire mackie board and into ableton.

first sample 8ms latency
second 6ms
3rd 7ms

messing around with the settings, I can get it down to 3 or 4 ms

this is totally fine and acceptable for me, I can either just leave it, or slide it over, or quantize if I want that kinda feel ...options

[sascha.victoria]

[BHC303]

[rowman]

[Oldstench]

[BHC303]

Hey Oldy, yeah I meant driver error compensation, silly me

I did that lesson and I my sound card was only a few samples out? I could not make an adjustment big enough to for ableton to register the offset as it was so small?

Does that sound write?

Cheers mate

[computer controlled]

All audio coming externally into Ableton is always a few ms late standard, on my system. I use the delay comp at the bottom of the tracks to tighten it all up. Also i noticed the 707 is always late on the first hit, but it syncs up right after that.

[Bryan B]

I tried everything and gave up on using Midi clock from or into Ableton with gear. I still use Midi to trigger notes, gates and drum sounds.

I switched to Silent Way and I have had little complaint and even that little complaint was fixed already. Now Silent Way even offers jitter free Midi if you have the right sample rate interface. I would love to give that a spin sometime (if Din Sync wasn't working so great for me already).

Computers and software need to wake up and make Midi clocking a priority! How can we have amazingly fast processors and be recording audio at the rates we have now and still be limiting Midi quality to 1983ish standards?

[BHC303]

I am keen to look into silent way, what modules do you use with the software?

[Bryan B]

I built a 1/4" to Din Sync Converter (that also splits the clock like a mult) and I use my MOTU 1224's headphone out from Ableton to drive it.

I run a TR-909, TR-808, TR-606, TB-303 and all of My STG Time Suit modules from that 1 stereo headphone output.

[BHC303]