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xonetacular Ultra Wiggler
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:44 pm Post subject: DIY Frenzy- is it normal to have like 15 projects lined up? |
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I discovered this subforum a few days ago and I seem to have already started and order parts for like 10 different projects and parts for the first haven't even come in yet.
I thought I was addicted to eurorack when I got into a few months ago and now I don't see how I will ever save for built modules- with DIY it is cheap but the runs are so limited it is almost more addictive since you feel you need to get in on PCBs, parts, and panels before it's too late and they are no longer available.
I think I have like 8-11 projects/modules I've started getting supplies for already and more I want to start on...
Anyway- thanks for making the little community so awesome and people sharing their designs and projects. I thought muffs was a great community already but this sub set takes it to another level with people sharing so much stuff for little to no profit.  |
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negativspace Manhattan Analog
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| negativspace wrote: | Only 15?
Yes, a healthy backlog is both normal and appropriate... as long as you're making progress I wouldn't worry. |
This is so true. I remember when I had 15
I always say that I will build over several years... Then there is always room for some pcbs more to buy. |
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nickster Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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The backlog is not the problem. But the nervous glances at the swiftly diminishing empty spaces on one's current case with the impending sense of forebodance that a new monster case is soon to be born, most assuredly is.
A PCB can lie about waiting to be populated. A case screams to be made and once done cries out to the world " Hail Daisy mother of Moo fill me up ladie" _________________ Sound Design Packs available from me at www.lonetreemusic.com |
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raisinbag Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm guilty. Only been a year since I started building synth stuff again and am past the 15 mark for sure. |
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spotta Needs more wigglin' time
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| raisinbag wrote: | | I'm guilty. Only been a year since I started building synth stuff again and am past the 15 mark for sure. |
+1
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| xpander wrote: | | negativspace wrote: | | Only 15? |
THIS. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| 15 would be nice... I am in the triple digits here |
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maskull Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Guilty.
Most of my backlog is created due to my reasoning that I can save money by putting together one giant Mouser order to save on shipping. I always forget to order something but won't reorder unless I need a bunch of stuff. |
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ABC Common Wiggler
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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bulk buying components is the easiest way to fool yourself that just one more project can't be a bad thing.
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| negativspace wrote: | Only 15?
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+1
PCBs are cheap, just make sure you save enough documentation to build the thing when you finally get to it. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| maskull wrote: | Guilty.
Most of my backlog is created due to my reasoning that I can save money by putting together one giant Mouser order to save on shipping. I always forget to order something but won't reorder unless I need a bunch of stuff. |
This is exactly my position!  |
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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im down to about 4 unpopulated pcbs and a bunch waiting on panels / final parts
getting content with my modular
though i am looking at sequencers and drum machines, effect boxes now  _________________ .
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| moogah wrote: | | negativspace wrote: | Only 15?
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+1
PCBs are cheap, just make sure you save enough documentation to build the thing when you finally get to it. |
Whoa, is that a good point or what? I've got gigabytes of saved off web pages, PDFs of schematics & datasheets & other "stuff", FPD files, DWG & DXF files, Eagle files, captured bits & snippets of discussion threads, JPGs, and whatever other sort of data is relevant to each of the many projects I've managed to commit to, invest in, start building, or think about. Then there are the hard copies of BOMs & schematics & building guides and operational stuff in a batch of notebooks that get appended to as boards are populated, with highlighting and notes and whatever.... it's amazing to me. And the list goes on.....
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Juxwl Come for our...uhhh...corn?
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| nickster wrote: | The backlog is not the problem. But the nervous glances at the swiftly diminishing empty spaces on one's current case with the impending sense of forebodance that a new monster case is soon to be born, most assuredly is.
A PCB can lie about waiting to be populated. A case screams to be made and once done cries out to the world " Hail Daisy mother of Moo fill me up ladie" |
Fuck yeah!
Empty space starts the backlog...backlog creates new empty space. Repeat. _________________ http://www.soundcloud.com/juxwl |
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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You can stop? Say it isn't so. I'm about at the hundred module point, and have pcbs here for maybe that many more.
The one thing I try to do is only have one project going at a time. This doesn't always work, but it makes life a bit more sane. _________________ What they do is this: They leak current in proportion to the frequency of the signal. The ramifications of this can only be truly appreciated when solving nodal current balances in the Laplace domain, unfortunately.
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think I've ever had 15 projects in play. I like to obsess over each one, and so I need to concentrate.
My building slowed down when my cabinets filled up. But I've found a way to continue. I have a 2U high 19-inch space now. My current obsession is filling that with one panel and 11 modules behind it. Is that one project or 11? There will be 5 or 6 PC boards.  _________________ Richard
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| I have every intention of stopping building modules once my case is full -- which should be very soon. |
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raisinbag Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| jonbstevens wrote: | | I have every intention of stopping building modules once my case is full -- which should be very soon. |
Damn, I can't use that excuse being a carpenter!!!!!! It's easier for me to make a new case than it is a module!!!! |
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Here's how I slowed down the DIY process: I decided to make my own boards, and mostly design all my own stuff. End result: my modular is still pretty small, but my design business is booming! _________________ And this abundance of technical means allows the heart to overflow freely.
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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With the amount of projects that are being made nowadays its hard to keep up. I have a huge backlog!
I wish I would have designed my panels before stuffing the bords.....  |
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MR-808 Bored by 4/4
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Define "normal". ;) _________________ Last module completed: Jürgen Haible Tau Pipe Phaser |
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active Common Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:04 am Post subject: |
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i have about 15 compressors, eqs, and others just for my recording studio to make! then a rhodes to refurbish and a polysix.
then about 30 modules. woops! |
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MR-808 Bored by 4/4
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:04 am Post subject: |
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| ABC wrote: | | bulk buying components is the easiest way to fool yourself that just one more project can't be a bad thing. |
Agreed. :) It saves money AND time.
I have a big spreadsheet with all the components I've ever bought on the left, the ones that I've bought in bulk a different color. Next is a "totals" column that sums everything to the right. When I get a new PCB, I make a column for it, then take off the quantity of each component from the BOM. Usually it takes about a dozen projects before I decide to place an order, and then it's easy to see if buying in bulk makes sense.
When I get the order, I make up "kits" with everything needed to make a module in a bubble-wrap envelope. Organization is the key to maintaining sanity. LOLZ _________________ Last module completed: Jürgen Haible Tau Pipe Phaser |
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:08 am Post subject: |
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I try to keep my backlog low, but there are times when a handful of great projects will shoot up back to back and suddenly I'll add a pile of empty PCBs to what was previously a diminishing backlog. This probably happened to a lot of people recently with the influx of Clarke and Zthee panels along with multiple projects from people like L-1, EAS, and J3RK.
Hit the order pages of any project thread and you'll definitely find some people deep in the backlog lands. In pages of orders along the lines of 1 or 2 PCBs there's always "that guy" who kicks in the door and screams "I'LL TAKE 20." I still don't get that - you're really going to build a dozen Klees? |
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:19 am Post subject: |
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I have usually 90% of a needed components in stock and assembly boards very quick. Wiring and boxing are more difficult for me. It's a reason why I chosen wiring-free format. _________________ http://L-1.su |
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:36 am Post subject: |
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| NV wrote: | | Hit the order pages of any project thread and you'll definitely find some people deep in the backlog lands. In pages of orders along the lines of 1 or 2 PCBs there's always "that guy" who kicks in the door and screams "I'LL TAKE 20." I still don't get that - you're really going to build a dozen Klees? |
yes, this really happens. there are people building custom modules for others.
anyways, when i started with DIY i bought more PCBs that i could build. partly this was the result of not knowing what i actually wanted/needed. at some point i gave them away to someone else to get my desk clean again. now i try not to have more than 2 'foreign' project, alas, i have so many 'own' projects on the pile... _________________
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:50 am Post subject: |
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| Dr. Sketch-n-Etch wrote: | | Here's how I slowed down the DIY process: I decided to make my own boards,... |
+1
Having the boards to fit the available components and have the preferred mounting method is also much nicer than having to improvise stuff.
Most of the time the semi-commercially available boards are stuffed pretty quickly and then I have to ponder on how to connect and mount them, or procrastinate because of the amount of wiring needed. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:53 am Post subject: |
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Between studio diy and synth diy I'd estimate I have 50-ish unfinished projects in my backlog....
I'm a lot better now - I'd like to think i'm more realistic about what I can achieve. When I first found out there were audio electronics circuits on the internet (14 years ago?) I signed up for everything (although most things were DIY pcb etching or veroboard back then)  |
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| Jarno wrote: | Having the boards to fit the available components and have the preferred mounting method is also much nicer than having to improvise stuff.
Most of the time the semi-commercially available boards are stuffed pretty quickly and then I have to ponder on how to connect and mount them, or procrastinate because of the amount of wiring needed. |
getting off-topic here, sorry:
yes, it is good to have things the way you like it, and i am using SMT and PCB mounted front panel components for my private stuff most of the time, however, i do this to get better on this, to test things, and maybe some of these things become a commercial product at some point - who knows.
nevertheless, wiring front panel components is the best thing to do IMHO. it is much more reliable, no stress to the PCBs, easier to replace faulty components, maybe you want to change the format/front panel in future... i believe wiring is the best thing to do it, if you can afford it.
just my 2 pence _________________
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glitchpop Fuck! Building synthesizers is art
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:22 am Post subject: |
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Since no-one has said this yet although it seems pretty apparent the answer to your question is: YES.  |
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And if anyone is still in doubt, check this thread;
Post your backlog - 2012 |
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:29 am Post subject: A backlog you say! |
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A backlog is not just normal, it's COMPULSORY!
| jonbstevens wrote: | | I have every intention of stopping building modules once my case is full -- which should be very soon. |
Now that ISN'T normal
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You know what is horrible about my list? Most of the DIY I have completed this year I also started/bought this year and have done little to put a dent in that list. Admittedly, I got a massive boost to my backlog by buying a couple of other peoples backlogs when they got out of DIY and I have ended up with many PCBs that aren't a high priority. I probably should do a trade/sale of a good bit of my backlog.
I decided to get serious about my Steiner Synthasystem, bought a bunch more PCBs and populated them. I finally got some quality FPE panels made and finished a case. I am in the process of wiring them up. That will probably be my big DIY completion of 2012. I've also built a euro case and bought a bunch of the euro DIY w/panel stuff and have completed some of that (PEG, tabularasa x2, CVP, Fonik ring mod, some Miss 10 stuff in the works).
I've started making some modules of my own design and these are probably the most time consuming but rewarding DIY so far. I hope to get some panels soon so I can show them off. _________________ DIY panels and PCBs for Buchla and Euro format: http://synthpanels.blogspot.de/
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| zoot horn rollo wrote: | | maskull wrote: | Guilty.
Most of my backlog is created due to my reasoning that I can save money by putting together one giant Mouser order to save on shipping. I always forget to order something but won't reorder unless I need a bunch of stuff. |
This is exactly my position!  |
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I don't know how many projects I have on hold, waiting for that final missing component.  _________________ There are no voices in the pancake |
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only 15 ? you are doing well
I wish mine was so low, it's well over 10 times that
and just refuses to get any smaller. _________________ "its not my fault you employ muppets" |
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OH man, and here I was going to say 6 months in and at 26 projects, some of which are quite a bit more nebulous than others "Build a Delay" for example, but it counts because I have the (fake) MN3005's to do it with.
10x that? My wife would be throwing me out because there'd be no room in my office to get to her exercise bike :-) |
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welll after saying i had my backlog under control i just subscribed to:
2nd midibox drum machine
2 xoxbox
living vocoder
i think it is bad idea to talk about getting under control of a habbit / addiction - gives your brain a sence of security and your guards go down _________________ .
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LIVING VOCODER?
are there more, or did somebody give up?? |
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Let's see...
Just ordered 5 oscillator pcbs
Have and need to build
2 lpg
1 Klee
1 Oakley diod filter
1 Oakley quad vca
2 Oakley vceg
1 Oakley multimix
1 Clee quantizer chip
1 yusynth dual gated slew striped up
1 cgs universal slew striped up
Yep, looks like 15, or 16, is about the depth of my queue as well. I figure that this will take me into next summer.
Why is it that the queue never gets smaller?
Oh well, back to soldering...n
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| Reese P. Dubin wrote: | LIVING VOCODER?
are there more, or did somebody give up?? |
monopoly let his go
it was in buysell
luckily (not for my wallet) i was looking when it was offered
i was overseas when these were offered so it is nice to get one - i was a bit sad to miss out _________________ .
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| Quote: | | I think the Klee counts as 2 or 3 all by itself |
damn i miss counted then ... i have 2 still 2 build
and yes the wife has often threatened to throw me out.
I am monopolising two large rooms plus my workshop
i need a bigger house
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Just Boards.
Pucktronix Snake corral
Fonik Resonator - X Panner
MFOS 8 Stage Phaser
MFOS WSG
Klee
2 x Jerk 258
Boards & Panels
Miss 10 VCO
FCUK Recycler
Miss 10 VCF
Miss 10 LFO
Miss 10 HADSR
2 x Jerk / Clarke68 Xfaders
2 x Random Looping Sequencer
Jerk / Clarke68 Dual 291 Bandpass & Xfader
Started
Thomas White Dual LPG - 5%
Roman f 266 - 7%
808 BD - 60%
x0xIO - 8%
2 x Fonik / Thomas Henry X-4046 VCO - 2%, doing tonight..
2x L1 Compressor - 3%
FCUK 'Roland' VCF - 90%
Clee Dual LPG #1 - 95%
Clee Dual LPG #2 - 60%
Jerster - 80%
Double Well Chaos - 95%
Finished
Dual SimpleSeq #1
Dual SimpleSeq #2
Seq Squared
Tabula Rasa
L-1 Quad VCA Mixer
2 x Liquid high hats (need panels)
And having lots of fun doing them and visiting here!  _________________ --
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Norman_Phay tehpwnzriated
Joined: 13 Nov 2008 Last Visit: 23 May 2013
    Posts: 1370 Location: Hearst Castle, circa 1926.
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krelnarb Wiggling with Experience
Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Last Visit: 29 Apr 2013
    Posts: 257
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I could double the size of my meager system if I could find time to plug the iron in, but the last time I had time to do any Printed Circuit Bead work was almost a year ago. That and I can't afford panels `cause I keep buying PCBs.  |
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