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Oakley Equinoxe Phaser and alternatives
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Author Oakley Equinoxe Phaser and alternatives
doctorvague
I want to get a phaser in my system. Not really much out there that I'm aware of. Since Modcan's new dual frequency shifter has a phase mode also, I asked Bruce about that since there were no demos of the phaser mode. He doesn't have one around at the moment to do any demos but he said although the freq shifter is really good the phaser part isn't its strong suit. Makes sense and I appreciate his honesty about it! I'm not that interested in a freq shifter anyway for whatever reason and it's an expensive module.

Anybody have this Oakley one or want to make other suggestions?

What really got me going on this is Modcan's awesome DDL module. It can get this beautiful wash of regeneration going pretty easily. A phaser either after that, or in the DDL feedback loop would do some nice things I think. I'd also like to use it more as filter just hitting it with an EG in the normal way. I've never had a CV phaser I could use like that.

Cheers
Phil
a100user
I have a pair of Oakley Equinoxes (Euro format built by Krisp1) and they are very nice indeed.

They have a depth and richness that can be lush or just provide a gentle shimmer to a sound.

If you go this route I would recommend a pair. Krisp1 added an switch that inverts the lfo input so with them panned left and right it real wide and full sounding.

If you want I can put a sound clip together for you.

David
doctorvague
2 of them is a killer idea!
The Modcan delay I'm talking about does a stereo ping pong thing (which I over-over-over use) so yeah, that would be perfect. The LFO idea is good too.

Great suggestion, thanks David!!! Didn't expect you over here in the 5U section....
Don't go to any trouble for a clip. But if you're inspired, hey, we'll listen. Clips are good. There are some pretty good clips at the Oakley site BTW. I should have posted a courtesy link anyway:
http://www.oakleysound.com/equinox.htm
ach_gott
I have one built by krisp1 with plans for a second. I concur, it sounds great.
a100user
doctorvague wrote:
Didn't expect you over here in the 5U section....


Well although I'm a Euro format nut I love Tony's stuff as you can see from the picture above the bottom row is mostly Oakley modules I built.

Not as pretty as Krisp1's though smile

Plus I love supporting our local talent.
doctorvague
I just found this one from Modcan also:
http://www.modcan.com/bseries/phase.html

It's just a little over double the price of the Oakley (in USD anyway). No LFO but it has other stuff. I'm sure it's cool, but I think I'd rather have the 2 Oakleys for the same money. I just listened to Oakley's demos again. That thing sounds great to me. I can see why you guys want 2 of them.
spinach_pizza
I have a Vermona PH-16:

http://www.analoguehaven.com/vermona/ph16/

It's a rack mount unit, but I've brought the posterior patch points to the front with a patch bay. I thought Vermona discontinued these units, but they still seem to be offered at AH (although it says email for availability).

It offers 8 stage stereo phasing, or 16 stage mono. Wonderful!!
Synthbuilder
a100user wrote:
I have a pair of Oakley Equinoxes (Euro format built by Krisp1) and they are very nice indeed.

Not wanting to do Paul out of any business but the Oakley Equinoxe is available in Euro format as the Analogue Systems RS-400. Indeed, the first 100 PCBs for the RS-400 were hand built by me for Bob at ASys.

Tony
doctorvague
spinach_pizza wrote:
I have a Vermona PH-16:

http://www.analoguehaven.com/vermona/ph16/

It's a rack mount unit, but I've brought the posterior patch points to the front with a patch bay. I thought Vermona discontinued these units, but they still seem to be offered at AH (although it says email for availability).

It offers 8 stage stereo phasing, or 16 stage mono. Wonderful!!


Welcome spinach_pizza and thanks for posting.
They are not showing the PH-16 on Vermona's site and A-H doesn't have any - so it doesn't look too promising. Plus no audio demos. Looks like a nice unit though and at a decent price for what it is.
spinach_pizza
doctorvague wrote:

Welcome spinach_pizza and thanks for posting.
They are not showing the PH-16 on Vermona's site and A-H doesn't have any - so it doesn't look too promising. Plus no audio demos. Looks like a nice unit though and at a decent price for what it is.


Ah, that's a bummer - I love that stereo phasing sound with contrary movement it does so well!
emdot_ambient
Check out Rob Hordijk's dual phasers:
http://electro-music.com/forum/post-258065.html

And it'll do a lot more than just stereo phasing. Totally gorgeous bit of gear.

He has no web site, you have to email him* and I have no clue about prices or availability, but this is THE sweetest phaser I've every heard. Period.

* rhordijk ( AT ) xs4all (DOT) nl
emdot_ambient
Oh, don't forget to also check out Jürgen Haible's Tau Phaser if you're up for some DIY (the pre-built ones aren't in stock):

http://www.bridechamber.com/bridechamber.com/JH_Tau_Pipe.html
russma
I think Rob Hordijk's dual phaser is the one to beat. Fantastic phaser module.

I have the Tau now, and it's good, but at some point later, I'm going to swap it out for Rob's.
emdot_ambient
idiotboy wrote:
I think Rob Hordijk's dual phaser is the one to beat. Fantastic phaser module.

I have the Tau now, and it's good, but at some point later, I'm going to swap it out for Rob's.

I'd agree. I haven't used any of them personally, but the demos of Rob's just blew me away...total lust. MY ASS IS BLEEDING
Norman_Phay
I have an Equinoxe phaser, and I think it is absolutely outstanding. For years my favourite phaser was the Tc Mk12 pedal unit, but the Equinoxe sounds better to my ears.
sunsinger
doctorvague wrote:
Anybody have this Oakley one or want to make other suggestions?

What really got me going on this is Modcan's awesome DDL module. It can get this beautiful wash of regeneration going pretty easily. A phaser either after that, or in the DDL feedback loop would do some nice things I think. I'd also like to use it more as filter just hitting it with an EG in the normal way. I've never had a CV phaser I could use like that.

Cheers
Phil


Hey Phil. I've got the Modcan Super Delay and the Dual Frequency Shifter.
But what really makes these baby's sing is the VC Flanger a BBD based flanger from Modcan. It's unbelievable, and with the delay it will phase shift better than anything out there. It's one of the most beautiful modules I have, and is capable of smooth silky phasing or universe ripping sounds.

I think that it's the clear choice. If you want to hear some samples I'll put some on my site for you.
rezzn8r
sunsinger wrote:
doctorvague wrote:
Anybody have this Oakley one or want to make other suggestions?

What really got me going on this is Modcan's awesome DDL module. It can get this beautiful wash of regeneration going pretty easily. A phaser either after that, or in the DDL feedback loop would do some nice things I think. I'd also like to use it more as filter just hitting it with an EG in the normal way. I've never had a CV phaser I could use like that.

Cheers
Phil


Hey Phil. I've got the Modcan Super Delay and the Dual Frequency Shifter.
But what really makes these baby's sing is the VC Flanger a BBD based flanger from Modcan. It's unbelievable, and with the delay it will phase shift better than anything out there. It's one of the most beautiful modules I have, and is capable of smooth silky phasing or universe ripping sounds.

I think that it's the clear choice. If you want to hear some samples I'll put some on my site for you.


hyper MY ASS IS BLEEDING we're not worthy
I'd really like to hear some good samples for the Modcan VC Flange.
I keep flip-flopping on the decision to squeeze it into my system.
sunsinger
I'll put some up, maybe tomorrow with a link. First I want to assemble some nice examples from my recordings. 8_)
dude
yeah, i have been really on the fence about trying to fit the b series flange in my system. i would love to hear demos of any thing that is being talked about!
doctorvague
emdot_ambient wrote:
Check out Rob Hordijk's dual phasers:
http://electro-music.com/forum/post-258065.html

And it'll do a lot more than just stereo phasing. Totally gorgeous bit of gear.

He has no web site, you have to email him* and I have no clue about prices or availability, but this is THE sweetest phaser I've every heard. Period.

* rhordijk ( AT ) xs4all (DOT) nl


WOW. Those samples are really impressive. You could make a lot of music with that thing. Thanks for posting that. I'll have to email him and find out wait times and prices. I don't know much about him but IIRC he has built stuff for Monopoly at different times.

@Ron Sunsinger re the Modcan Flanger
What do you mean by this?
sunsinger wrote:

<<<<and with the delay it will phase shift better than anything out there. >>>


I'm not sure how patient I am these days. I could hang with the 2 month wait I've had from Modcan in the past. But if he's up to 6-8 months, hmm, I dunno. That's a tough call - I can make a lot of music in 6 months. Of course I have the same question about the Hordijk stuff. I'll read up on the Modcan one in the meantime. As always demos are good and appreciated.

EDIT: Here's a link to the Modcan flanger. It's $566 USD. It's not stereo BTW, as are some of these others that have come up. I'm just sayin'...
http://www.modcan.com/bseries/flange.html

I think the Tau phaser would be way beyond my DIY skills. Scary just thinking about it. eek!

Thanks for all the input everyone - I knew there was more to know!!
Babaluma
the MFOS sounds insanely good, best phaser i have ever heard. i think you can get a kit so you could put it behind a 5u panel. i have the synthasonic version. i posted a demo here before:

http://darkflame.hermetech.net/Musick/TechnoJam3.mp3

it also nails the j.m. jarre and tangerine dream sound on pads, need to get around to posting a clip of it with the matrix 1000...
astroschnautzer
emdot_ambient wrote:
Check out Rob Hordijk's dual phasers:
http://electro-music.com/forum/post-258065.html

And it'll do a lot more than just stereo phasing. Totally gorgeous bit of gear.

He has no web site, you have to email him* and I have no clue about prices or availability, but this is THE sweetest phaser I've every heard. Period.

* rhordijk ( AT ) xs4all (DOT) nl
This sounds for sure great... Is hordijk selling any pcbs or does he do only complete modules?

-
doctorvague
Babaluma wrote:
the MFOS sounds insanely good, best phaser i have ever heard. i think you can get a kit so you could put it behind a 5u panel. i have the synthasonic version. i posted a demo here before:

http://darkflame.hermetech.net/Musick/TechnoJam3.mp3

it also nails the j.m. jarre and tangerine dream sound on pads, need to get around to posting a clip of it with the matrix 1000...


Nice clip! Sounds really good, but I can't find it on Ray's site.
sunsinger
doctorvague wrote:


@Ron Sunsinger re the Modcan Flanger
What do you mean by this?
sunsinger wrote:

<<<<and with the delay it will phase shift better than anything out there. >>>


I'm not sure how patient I am these days. I could hang with the 2 month wait I've had from Modcan in the past. But if he's up to 6-8 months, hmm, I dunno. That's a tough call - I can make a lot of music in 6 months. Of course I have the same question about the Hordijk stuff. I'll read up on the Modcan one in the meantime. As always demos are good and appreciated.

EDIT: Here's a link to the Modcan flanger. It's $566 USD. It's not stereo BTW, as are some of these others that have come up. I'm just sayin'...
http://www.modcan.com/bseries/flange.html


Well, of course this may not be a totally fair statement, because I have the Super Delay to loop the Flange through. I'll put a source through the Flanger, and use a very slow LFO to oscillate the "Flange Amount" CV input.

Then I take the Flange output into the Super Delay input. And I'll use a very slow LFO to oscillate the Super Delay's "Delay CV" input. This creates in some pretty wild results because of the slow pitch shifting of the Delay combined with the slow wagging of the Flange.

Of course I don't know if this technique will produce the same results when oscillating the Digital Delay, maybe some zipper noise will occur. But if not, the sounds are amazing.

If this works with the DD and VC Flange. The DD stereoizes the Flanging.

I sympathize with the long wait times from Modcan these days. It seems like he got slammed with orders pretty hard.

But even if you go with the Hordjik Phasers, I'd still recommend getting a place in line for the VC Flanger. It's one of those BBD modules that may not be around forever, and $566 was an easy price to pay for the results I'm able to achieve with it. 8_)
neandrewthal
doctorvague wrote:
Babaluma wrote:
the MFOS sounds insanely good, best phaser i have ever heard. i think you can get a kit so you could put it behind a 5u panel. i have the synthasonic version. i posted a demo here before:

http://darkflame.hermetech.net/Musick/TechnoJam3.mp3

it also nails the j.m. jarre and tangerine dream sound on pads, need to get around to posting a clip of it with the matrix 1000...


Nice clip! Sounds really good, but I can't find it on Ray's site.


Ditto on the clip! I've got one of these in the queue.

http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/analogsynth/PHASESHIFTER2007/PHASES HIFTER2007.php

smile
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