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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

consumed wrote:
gonna have your klee running by next weekend?
It'll be a miracle but I'm gonna try. I'll get up some close ups of the other panels a little later.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

plord wrote:
consumed wrote:
gonna have your klee running by next weekend?
It'll be a miracle but I'm gonna try. I'll get up some close ups of the other panels a little later.


i believe in miracles!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

ok, finished xoxbox, waiting for IO panel and sold some more bits


bench

xoxbox < waiting for Io mod kit
wave multiplier < seems to have cut out grr
cgs synthacon vcf < needs caps
tube filter boxes < need panel and then laquer box

read for panels

4 x qfgs <just needs some lf444/tl064s but pretty close
dual TH-vca1
dual wogglebug one populated

pcbs to build now
quad lfo < next
digisound I/O < next
mb808 < next
cgs vco
yusynth ems vcf
4x lpgs
analog computer
mankato
matrix mixer
neural agonizer
tau phaser
box'o'trix
doomsday machine


^ arranged in order of build smile


and for other peeps
krautrock phaser box < working on now

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Klee construction makes you into a monk. Chop wood, carry water, build a wiring harness. Chop wood, carry water, build a wiring harness. and so forth.

Ok then, all wiring harnesses completed as of 3am this morning smile There's a task I never want to do again. But I checked every one from the bare wiring end to a test pin header and we're good to go. Tonight, sleep, then the actual work of soldering it all together can begin.

A note to anyone pondering Kleeness: it is blatantly obvious that building the headers is the only way to go. But you will cut, strip, tin, clamp, insert, and test about 200 wires during this exercise eek! It took me probably 12 hours total over 3 nights (but I am slow, and anal, and tested everything). If you got the parts kit from E-M, you will find you have about 16 "spare" um, those little wire doohickeys that you clamp to the tinned end and jam into the header. Thank god. I mangled 9 of them d'oh!

I have a little wiring station, with spools horizontally on a dowel poked through some scrap wood. It helped a LOT. I could pull 6 wires at a time and cut to the same length. After making one harness completely, I went with a suggestion in the Build doc, and cut all the remaining wires (as long as the farthest possible reach from my PCBs to a panel component), then stripped them all, then tinned them all, then went back to one-by-one assembly. That let me get into multiple little grooves where muscle memory and the lack of context switching made everything seem to go a little faster, YMMV.

Also, I will now lay claim to the most ghetto PCB mounting strategy ever. Pics to follow smile

In other bench news, I got my orders from Bridechamber, Mouser, and Allied, so I now *should* have all the parts in house to finish up the Attenuverter, Tau, Yusynth Diode filter, and the Buchla 281 ARs (oops, no, waiting on 10K lin pots from Futurelec for that...but close!). But for now focus is still on the Klee.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

those wires were such a bitch
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An update for this month. Hopefully next one I'll be done, but the VCO and BiNtic are killing me very frustrating

Fix it:

Wogglebug(damn bag of backwards BC550s from futurlec)
2x Buchla VC portamento (didn't know how to install the vactrols without a silkscreened PCB d'oh!)
CGS VCO (stumped confused )
2x buchla 281 (I don't know how the hell I managed to put 18V zeners in there instead of 10)
CGS Analogic(the last time I try trimming the leads before soldering)
Fonik PS3100 resonators(BC550s again)
2x tube vca (needed a "for dummies" bias switch wiring guide)
CGS BiNtiC(stumped confused )

Build it:

x0xb0x (All tuned up. Just gotta screw it in the case and add some 1/4" jacks for CV/Gate)
mankato filter
PS3100 resonators
fritz 5 pulser
tellun neural agonizer (PCB's and panel are ready, just waitin on them tanks)
tellun switching comparator (need a 3PDT)
CGS(from here on) BiNtiC
2x tube vca
3x dc mixer
15x LED driver
cascade mixer
digital noise
analog shift register (need a parts kit)
pulse dividers/boolean logic
xor/xnor
utility LFO (this one is aborted. Ran out of materials to make panels and won't be getting more for a while)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

My DIY backlog is off the map :(

2 x JH tau phasers
5 (!) x JH kraut rock phasers
3 x JH triple ensemble - one of these works, the other 2 need some troubleshooting
2 x JH freq shifters
2 x JH scanner/vib. Or was it three. I can't actually remember
2 x Fonik dual mix/invert
2 x Fonik triple resonators
Oakley octal resonator
Oakley noise generator
4 x Topp 281 clone
4 x DJ Thomas' LPG clone
2 x ryktnk sequencers
Klee sequencer
JLH octave selector
JLH interval selector
Tellun corp add-on for MOTM VCLFO
Tellun corp add-on for MOTM ADSR
Tellun corp MUUB board (built up, ready to use w/MOTM480 filter)
CGS analog shift register

Now, about 1/3 of this stuff actually has the full set of components soldered into place, I just need to get the panels and get it wired up, ect.

I got this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16804034@N00/2999867969/

The packaging might be a bit OTT, do you think?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16804034@N00/2999867975/in/set-7215760001 7769090/

It is a Wiard-ish format panel which will contain an Oakley "Equinoxe" phaser (which I already built and ATM have behind a MOTM-format panel) and the Oakley Octal resonator, so that'll be the first one. I plan on buying a panel a month.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

LOL. that box was so big they might as well have thrown in a deep dish pizza. Guinness ftw!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Kwote wrote:
LOL. that box was so big they might as well have thrown in a deep dish pizza. Guinness ftw!



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Luka
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

talk about inflation hehe


nice norman!
jesus 5 krautrock phasers

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Yeah, what are you gonna do with all those? That's more than $600 in JH PCB's you've got there eek!

I just put in my order for 1 tau, 1 kraut and 1 interpolating scanner 8)

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The extra KR phasers and triple choruses I'm building for other ppl smile I'm Just keeping one of each.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

so andrew what is wrong with your vco?
i can help you if you want
took me awhile to get mine rocking, but now it is fully functional


does anyone have a cgs synthacon vcf?
i extremely stumped with mine confused
need some help
just some pictures of a working finished one would do
im perplexed with mine

and how have you done your bias switch?
we can probably work through that too

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Have you got the Elby version? Or Ken's? I think they both require some kludging to get operational, and the removal of some diodes to tame the resonance. I've got some photos of the kludges (done on the Elby pcb) if you'd like me to email them to you. I think the two pcb's are fairly similar in layout.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

yeah the elby version, well it is a ken stone board
i bought this years ago and it didnt work so i just chucked it
trying to get it to work now

if you could email images and short description to me it would be awesome
coolhandluka-@-gmail-.-com

thanks roycie

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Luka wrote:
so andrew what is wrong with your vco?
i can help you if you want

You already did on page 2 Mr. Green but I haven't gotten around to checking it over yet. Well, I did, but discovered that none of the outputs worked this time. The core is still oscillating, so I must have blown up the TL072 or something last time I checked it. I'll have to fix that before I am back to where I was before, but I probably won't be able to look at it again until monday. I wish I could help with the synthacon, but I don't know the first thing about it confused

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and how have you done your bias switch?
we can probably work through that too

First I tried wiring it the way it is shown on the bridechamber page, but I must have done it wrong because nothing worked. Then I redid using the diagram guitarfool posted on e-music (the one I call the "for dummies" wiring guide) and it works great! It's really simple when you think about it. Just switching between the 2 different jumper/resistor combinations.

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yup great, well i have a colour coded pcb diagram explaining all the sections for the cgs vco if you want
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Luka wrote:
yup great, well i have a colour coded pcb diagram explaining all the sections for the cgs vco if you want


i'd like that sir. i plan on building 3 of em in the future.

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Kwote wrote:
Luka wrote:
yup great, well i have a colour coded pcb diagram explaining all the sections for the cgs vco if you want


i'd like that sir.


As would I smile

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

ok no prob, im just finishing making a ghetto-veroboard steiner vcf, once im done that ill check it out and make sure it all makes sense and post her up

debugging my vco taught me a lot about vcos and wave shaping it was a valuable experience

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