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Backroads
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Here's a good example of some EBM stuff that's got a pretty heavy trance vibe at times (see around 1:00).



The EBM entry on Wikipedia talks quite a bit about the crossover/influences of goa on industrial/ebm and vice versa.

In fact, I think I tend to prefer progressive psytrance partly because the basslines remind me of EBM.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I love this one:














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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have most of those releases b3nsf. that early 90's german trance scene with harthouse, eye-q, sven vath etc was excellent! still gets played from time to time here too.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Excellent stuff that Teutonic Knights... Hmm I have sometimes a bit of a problem with that nihilistic german thing, verging on the nazist sometimes razz Same thing with neofolk really, for some reason most of the germa stuff goes really high on the misantrophic scale.. But damn those are tasty sounds in that track! And strange, what was the thing with Norway and EBM at that time? Can't say we would have had a similar scene, altough we're practically neighbors.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Backroads wrote:
Here's a good example of some EBM stuff that's got a pretty heavy trance vibe at times (see around 1:00).



The EBM entry on Wikipedia talks quite a bit about the crossover/influences of goa on industrial/ebm and vice versa.

In fact, I think I tend to prefer progressive psytrance partly because the basslines remind me of EBM.


I'm sure I've read the EBM article on Wiki before, but if I saw that stuff I probably discounted it/thought it had something to do with the later future pop/whatever stuff that people tend to call EBM these days (and I hate MY ASS IS BLEEDING )


Great track too. Gonna have to try and find that release.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List



Cool!!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Loved the Harthouse label back in college, still do!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Backroads wrote:
Lately, though, its the progressive psytrance thats been blowing my mind. Been loving the drum/bass grooves that remind me of EBM (speaking of the roots of trance). This Ace Ventura mix has been getting heavy rotation lately:

[s]http://soundcloud.com/schatsi/ace-ventura-autumn-progmix[/s]

I was into Goa in the mid-90's but I've been really into the prog psy sound for the past 5-6 years. Ace Ventura's Rebirth is pure gold.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Ace Ventura is awesome.. anyone know what synths he is rockin?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I think he uses software; beyond that I have no idea. There are some youtube videos of him using a small midi controller next to a laptop, doing what looks like filter sweeps etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

One of my all time favourite albums is a psy trance album – sort of. Hallucinogen's Hallucinogen in Dub, remixed by OTT is just fantastic. Never heard anything like it, not even OTT's other stuff.

But the fast goa stuff, I'd really need to drop acid to enjoy.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

yeah that album is amazing... the fact that it is all remixes is mind boggling..
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

i became a fan of ott almost instantly. such genius.

let's drop some links... gamma goblins, for instance.

hallucinogen original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD3XsUR3ZRo
ott's remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGcH0YDhwg4
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Backroads
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I've always appreciated the original Twisted album more. But I'm not generally into Ott either.

This one makes me really want an MS20:

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Heh, cool, Terrafractyl, I guess we'll be meeting in Israel on the 23th of March grin

With MARK ALLEN! Shit, I still love many old Mindfield tracks, altough not sure how big his input is... but Quirk, still, deep stuff!



I'll arrive already on the 22th, and leave on the 1st probably... Gonna play at some other party too probably next Thursday. Maybe you want to tag along, I was thinking of maybe going hiking up north between the parties, it's fantastic there in the spring!



That's one of my all time fav tracks! Great to be playing with him at the same party, for me these occasions are strange, like playing with Pleiadians was, because they are the people that made me start with trance music in the first place!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Awesome gig, congrats on keeping the vibe alive. You going to record it? Post excerpts? I am not able to travel to Israel smile

Odyssey of the Mind gets a lot of play here, same with that first Quirk album.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well, I'm playing from CD a "live" DJ set, so not much to record there grin I'm mostly interested in songwriting so haven't had the energy or money to invest in any kind of live set... I'm hoping though, last summer for the first time played some tracks straight from the sequencer in the set, that was fun actually...

One interesting thing though was, that my contact with the audience was less, because the laptop took so much attention... So best would maybe be to have backgrounds in some software that allows to drag & drop projects fast and reliably in to a playlist, and then have maybe only one MIDI track for each track, and then have a synth for tweaking some live stuff in... Because with some basic analog desktop it would be fast enough to dial in any patch. I couldn't do with a pre-ordained set, because often I realize that I need to put some certain track next, and have maybe a minute or less to throw that in... Maybe Ableton Live would be good for this, don't know... But that's a bit expensive too confused

But yeah the oldschool (connected to the finnish/australian sound for some reason) scene definitely still exists in Israel!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been really digging this old school Goa anthem by Youth again recently:

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Great Track. I remember picking up Dragonfly Project II Trance and the first Concept in Dance on the same day, and that was pretty much that for the next 4 years. I hoovered up anything I could find.

I didn't read back through the thread, have we mentioned that Suntrip records has been churning out oldschool melodic Goa releases for a few years now?

Babaluma wrote:
I've been really digging this old school Goa anthem by Youth again recently:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Aah myself, about the new goa trance acts. I don't know why, but I can't really name ONE that would make me actually want to listen to the music. Maybe it's some lack of purity of ideas, maybe it's the flat computer sounds & production... Dunno.
Maybe Filteria (great guy, and has a lot of analog gear, MS20 etc) and Afgin (also a fantastic personality, don't remember now what he is using)... And some others possibly, but generally a LOT of this new style is focusing too much on cliched melodies, and less on interesting sonic textures and acid, like the old UK sound did for example...

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