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Boss RV-500
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Author Boss RV-500
Flohr
https://www.boss.info/us/products/rv-500/

Didn't see a thread on this yet. Looks awesome. All the demos are shitty guitar stuff but it seems like it should be pretty great.

Reasons I'm excited about it:

1. Price is about $100 less than the competition.

2. Delay is available with every verb type. Pretty sure it's a basic digital delay but it can go from 1ms to 2000ms, is BPM syncable, has low and high eq shelving, and pitch modulation. It can be routed either pre-verb or parallel, verb can also be muted so then the RV-500 is just a delay.

3. Midi I/O and USB. Expression in with some very flexible routing options, no mention of cv but it might be able to take a trigger/clock (my DD-7 does). Internal "auto expression pedal" aka LFO! None of the guitarist facing promo even mentioned that but I think it's awesome!

4. Every verb has pitch mod settings! Huge!

5. There are flexible input and output gain settings and some kind of dynamic compression/limiting stuff so I would think it would play well with line level stuff, maybe even modular.

Also 32/96 for people who care about fidelity.

And there's a model of the old Roland SRV verb and the Space Echo, which if it's anything like the RE-20 (which it seems it is) is almost worth the price of entry alone.
smetak
Recentaly, I did post a link to the unit in a discussion group here at Muff (forgot what it was about, though) - found it very impressive and, yes, way beyond a guitar pedal, into the modular/synth realm.

Watched a few more demos, together with the price, just might take a shot at it. Quite up there.
Flohr
Mine should arrive Tuesday. I'm planning on doing a video running synths and drum machines through it since all of the YouTube stuff is guitar right now.
rauch
nice! really curious about the srv model. not that i really need another reverb but always read good things about it. they seem kind of rare in my area though and i would definitely prefer the pedal format and knobs.
Flohr
Got mine yesterday, so far I'm really into it. I recorded a 40 minute video that I am uploading now. I'll post the YouTube link once it's up.

Preliminary observations:

The sound is really good but you need to tweak the parameters to make it do what you want on each different model. I.E the same settings may not sound as good across different modes.

Space Echo is awesome, very similar to the RE-20 but longer max time.

The manual sucks.

Wave Pedal = LFO. There are 8 of them per patch. No mention of this in any of the promo.

You can stack 2 patches and either layer them or run them in series, or parallel dual mono.

The delay per patch is an awesome feature. I wouldn't buy the RV for the delay alone but having both is awesome.

Modulate on every reverb and every delay is amazing. I need to play with it more to understand what it is doing more but so far so good.
Flohr
Klangzaun
I'll wait for the coming source audio ventris and will compare both. So far none of both hit me...
smetak
Klangzaun wrote:
I'll wait for the coming source audio ventris and will compare both. So far none of both hit me...


Watched the demo on their reverb - very impressive.
scrunday
Does anyone know how different the reverb is on the RV-500 compared to that on the GT-100/GT-001/GT-1 and RV-7? Is it obviously some of the same algorithms or something else?
Just me
non-sequiter
wloo
I don't have it, but it looks worth it.. watched a few videos, maybe I go and get myself one smile
scozbor
Just got one. Will report when I am able exit reverb dimension...
scozbor
Modulating reverb algo with the internal LFO is pretty amazing!!
With 7 more LFOs to modulate any other param in any other algo?? zombie
Cat-A-Tonic
Any further thoughts on the deep modulation possibilities with this thing?
Jean Luc Cougar
Curious about the above as well.

Also: how is the SRV emulation? I love the verb on the Roland MC-909 (SRV based) but this might be an interesting alternative.
joey
really curious how this thing compares to strymon or eventide. seems pretty high quality
scozbor
joey wrote:
really curious how this thing compares to strymon or eventide. seems pretty high quality


I own the RV500. Have also owned the stereo WET.
Have used the SPACE a bit.

From my own experience, and from what I've read:

The presets in the RV500 don't sound quite as sweet as the strymon. But don't be fooled. This thing is insanely powerful and can be tweaked more than the competitors.

In general the RV500 is probably not as good at super long infinite ambient reverbs. The decay time is 10sec max but I found you can get around this a bit using 2 reverbs in series, and also incorporating the internal delay. This has never bothered me anyway, I'm more likely to use a plugin mega-verb for super mega ambient verbs anyway.

The spring algo is great and I have seen people compare it favorably to the competition. The space echo algo is amazing. The SRV algo is amazing. All the algos are amazing really. The special FX are cool and unique compared to the other pedals.

The delay is basic but super capable. Sync/offset/modulation/EQ/series-parallel with reverb/etc

The 8 internal LFOs are where this thing stands out. You can sync them to midi and modulate any param of the reverb or delay, including the algo type.
This leads to some really crazy places and I'm really surprised that more wigglers have not jumped on this for this reason. Its modulation heaven!

The editing and usability is better than the others. Big screen, lots of params visible on screen. Menu structure is very easy and shallow. Most important params on knobs. Immediately switch between editing the reveb or the delay.

In summary I would say - takes more effort than the others but equally capable and excellent quality. Not as good for mega ambient reverbs. Better than the others at crazy synced modulated madness. It can definitely hold it's own against the other big boys.
Jean Luc Cougar
8 LFOs! And the SRV emu sounds good? Seems like I need to do some more research.
suboptimal
This looks nice. Does the editor work pretty well? I think I'd want to craft some patches on my computer. (So I can avoid using my computer. WTF. Anyway.)
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