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Navs Super Deluxe Wiggler
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dude fuck yeah!
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en. Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| uhuh! thank you navs and fonitronik! |
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Smooth Operator Common Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:28 am Post subject: |
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Great idea!  |
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Monobass thonk.co.uk
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:14 am Post subject: |
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| brilliant.. am I right in thinking the A180 has no other components, purely ganged connectors? If so then this is a very simple DIY project without an A-180 also. |
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fonik Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:57 am Post subject: |
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absolutely, monobass.
it is actually nothing but a fixed lopass filter. there are quite a few passive module designs you could easily build as a start. what about a switch to select from different cap values? this would give you a passive 6db lopass with selectable cutoff (has been made by moog in the past millenium - see below). or what about fixed hipass, attenuators, multiples, switches (selectors)... all you need is a cheap soldering iron from the hardware store, believe me, it is sufficient for a start.
anyways, navs module will be very useful for everyone who frequently uses gates for VCAs...
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Could this be modified to use a pot for variable cutoff/slew? _________________ new terminal sound system 2xlp/cd/digital out now | soundcloud / antisound.net | my modular
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fonik Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:33 am Post subject: |
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no, actually not.
by replacing the resistor with a pot you would not just change the slew rate but also change the level. in other words, the slower the slew the lower the signal level. for your ears the lowering of the level would simply whitewash the effect of changing the slew.
to prevent this you would have to use opamps as buffers, thus having an active module.
as i mentioned above you could use a switch for selecting capacitors of different values (as seen on the moog schematic above). the larger the cap, the slower the slew... _________________
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haesslich Common Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| with a 4051 and a counter you could replace the switch by a trigger signal... okay, again this would be an active module ;-) |
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stk Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info, fonik. _________________ new terminal sound system 2xlp/cd/digital out now | soundcloud / antisound.net | my modular
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itijik Three eyed monster
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:12 am Post subject: |
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This is nice. I was thinking that this would be perfect to use with the A160-161 outputs!
(oh, you mention the RCD on your article...YAH!) |
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itijik Three eyed monster
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fonik Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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no. far from that. in fact it is a different configuration. the fonitronik attenuverting mixer uses a highpass configuration to remove offset.
and it uses a 22uF, that gives much longer times anyways.
nav wanted to remove the 'pop' of the VCAs caused by those steep rising edges, so he wanted to smooth them just a little bit. yo won't even recognize it on slowly changing CVs. _________________
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matthias
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Monobass thonk.co.uk
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| fonik wrote: | absolutely, monobass.
it is actually nothing but a fixed lopass filter. there are quite a few passive module designs you could easily build as a start. what about a switch to select from different cap values? this would give you a passive 6db lopass with selectable cutoff (has been made by moog in the past millenium - see below). or what about fixed hipass, attenuators, multiples, switches (selectors)... all you need is a cheap soldering iron from the hardware store, believe me, it is sufficient for a start.
anyways, navs module will be very useful for everyone who frequently uses gates for VCAs...
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I like the idea of making some manual switches with adjustable slews  |
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itijik Three eyed monster
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks fonik! |
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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that'd be nice to do to one of the sets of multiples on the 1u modular world utility strip... might have to do that. cheers!  |
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fonik Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:50 am Post subject: |
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Great use for a "useless" module
For "random" slew, use an LDR instead of a normal resistor (or in parallel)
Bend the LDR so it faces inside the case or towards the crack in between modules for differant amounts of "random"
@Navs; have you tried stacking multiple RCD outs into the input? |
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[Djo] Common Wiggler
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for this tip navs!
I made mine with a switch. I use 1µ and 4.7µ.
Edit : 4.7µ is too small, I put a 6.3µ on parallel and it's great.
Sound example :
Soundcloud A180 Mod Slew
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en. Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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it could be nice also with a three position selector 1-off-2 |
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