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DI boxes for unbalanced outputs (synths and drum machines)
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Corrupt
Just got a new (old) mixer which is incredible quality-wise but a bit inflexible in the I/O department. All inputs are balanced female XLRs, which is rendering a fair amount of my gear unusable without unbalanced->balanced conversion. There is a mono/unbalanced insert flow also, which is helpful as a workaround, but I need to find out more about DI boxes and signal conversion.

Is anyone out there using multiple budget DI boxes in a situation like this? Not sure what the possible alternatives are. Hesitant to stick a bunch of cheap components in the signal path, having just made a massive upgrade in terms of the actual mixer, but the budget might dictate it... almost all my gear (modulars, Tempest, OT, old Rolands) has unbalanced outs.

Any help appreciated!
forestcaver
How long is the cable run? If short, can you not just wire the cables unbalanced? (For DI boxes, I like Orchid - cheap and good)
Eichburger
Worth keeping an eye on ebay for old broadcast stuff. Can go for a song.

I got an EMO systems rack with 8 transformer DI's for £100. Really high quality and built like a tank.

+1 for Orchid Electronics as a budget option.
fluxmonkey
https://www.diyrecordingequipment.com/products/ferrite-di

DIY, but doesn't get any easier than this
johny_gtr
It's interesting to know the primary goal of using DI's for synths - matching levels/resistance or add some colours to the sound. If colours - it can be interesting. Some old rack devices have standby mode which is not true bypass and they have transformers in the chain. Not cheap but can add some warmth.
Corrupt
forestcaver wrote:
How long is the cable run? If short, can you not just wire the cables unbalanced? (For DI boxes, I like Orchid - cheap and good)


No long runs involved, just signal compatibility. How would I go about wiring the cables for this?
Corrupt
Thanks for all the replies - most helpful. The DIY box looks great, I have to say.
tony d
Corrupt wrote:
forestcaver wrote:
How long is the cable run? If short, can you not just wire the cables unbalanced? (For DI boxes, I like Orchid - cheap and good)


No long runs involved, just signal compatibility. How would I go about wiring the cables for this?


http://www.rane.com/note110.html
Elephantbud
I use tl audio quad mic pre's for that, Ivory 2
They have 4 DI's with separate knobs for tube distortion and volume
So that gives me a DI with color...
Can be found cheap second hand.
Corrupt
tony d wrote:
Corrupt wrote:
forestcaver wrote:
How long is the cable run? If short, can you not just wire the cables unbalanced? (For DI boxes, I like Orchid - cheap and good)


No long runs involved, just signal compatibility. How would I go about wiring the cables for this?


http://www.rane.com/note110.html


That is an incredible resource. Thanks so much! Will wire up a couple of tests and see how I get on.
forestcaver
Tony d - that is a great resource ! Cheers.
Michael O.
DIY is the way to go- a quality transformer (utc, Triad, etc.), a few inches of quality wiring, and a bud box + connectors are cheaper than a budget DI and incomparable in terms of quality. All of my synths and most unbalanced outboard go through the DI’s before they hit the console mic or lines ins.
nathanscribe
Another option is the pseudo-balanced cable: https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/solving-computer-audio-problem s#para6

I've used these cables, DI boxes (both active and passive, cheap and not-so-cheap), and dedicated pre-amps. In my experience there's a noticeable sonic difference between the budget transformer DIs (eg, ART) and the pricier models (eg Radial JDI), but even the JDI gave distortion (as in signal deformation, not simple clipping) with stuff like a Moog bass. Of the cheaper active units, the Orchid ones are surprisingly good, and their passive Isolator boxes are also good for the money, though you're always going to get colouration (which you may or may not like) in a passive transformer-based box like that.

Making up a few cables is the cheapest way to do the job, but it's also nice to have some iron around for something a bit different sometimes.
Catmandeux
I’m throwing this into the ring.

It’s not cheap as DIY. It’s not obscenely expensive. And it seems to solve many oddball issues I run into with interfacing gear.

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/eventide-mixing-link
cwhiley
I use these.


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