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New Oakley PCB available - Looping ADSR & VCA
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Author New Oakley PCB available - Looping ADSR & VCA
Synthbuilder
I've upgraded our popular ADSR module and changed it a bit:

1. Added looping capabilities with gated and continuous modes.

2. As requested - builders have the option of having the raw un VCA'd ADSR output available. You can still have the inverted version of the VCA output if you wish instead.

3. 16mm pots instead of Vishay 248

4. Dotcom power supply headers.

More information:

http://www.oakleysound.com/adsr.htm

Scott should be doing some panels for these in our usual 5U format, but we are hoping to have these available in Mu Mu as well.

Tony
suitandtieguy
looks great!
analogsteve
Synthbuilder wrote:
Scott should be doing some panels for these in our usual 5U format, but we are hoping to have these available in Mu Mu as well.


This is exciting news!
SepticUnderground
Great!!
sduck
Excellent! I may need some of those...
kindredlost
Synthbuilder wrote:
... but we are hoping to have these available in Mu Mu as well.


I've been wearing my MuMu a lot lately so this is really good news.

Style over substance - I always say.
essex sound lab
Excellent update!

Synthbuilder wrote:
but we are hoping to have these available in Mu Mu as well.


I would be in for a pair.
emdot_ambient
thumbs up Looking way groovy! Rasta-nana
wyrtti
Wonderful! This looks like a real joy. As if the old design wasn't good already. Thank you, from a lower of sloooowww envelopes. Cthulhu Om
fluxmonkey
i've got a pair of the original designs (behind a double frac panel), they are my go-to ADSRs. fantastic design, now even better.
Neutron7
Very cool, Ill ahve to get a couple of these.

by the way will the CV helper module be able to control 2 ADSR modules?
pugix
A very nice enhancement to an already great module! applause I have four of the former version, two fully VC, and I use them all frequently.
synthetic
Yeah, MOTM appears to be a dead format. :(
Synthbuilder
Thanks for all the nice comments chaps.

Neutron7 wrote:
by the way will the CV helper module be able to control 2 ADSR modules?


No, it will only control one ADSR module at any one time.

Tony
Synthbuilder
synthetic wrote:
Yeah, MOTM appears to be a dead format. :(


I hope not. But the interest in mu mu versions of our modules has certainly been noticed by us. However, I'll be continuing to develop modules that will fit into MOTM panels for the foreseeable future. This generally means that they'll be able to be ported into mu mu without too much hassle. The other way around is not so easy since mu mu offers greater width and less adherence to any sort of grid. Although I've been tweaking the grid in my modules for a while now.

Tony
krisp14u
SO MOTM as a format is DEAD!!!!
Must remember to tell all the guys who keep buying stuff from me
Do Paul. S and Scott. D know? lol

The move to Include MU-MU Modules from Oakley Sound Systems is due to allot of peer pressure from the Guys in MU-MU Land
It is also to increase sales so me and Tony look our wives angry in the eye at the end of the financial year and not get a good SMACK! oops

But not to replace any format

The New Looping ADSR/VCA will make it to both formats as soon as we have Panels

I know Scott D is working on the MOTM format panel (cheers Buddy) love

And this is going to press with my panel guys as I type

nerdware
I have 4 Dotcom rack frames waiting to be filled with Oakley MU modules. thumbs up Of course, it'll take me years to do that, but at least I'm prepared. hyper The new ADSR will surely be one of those modules! Thanks.

BTW - that's a very tasty panel! w00t
essex sound lab
krisp14u wrote:


And this is going to press with my panel guys as I type



Excellent! I'll work on freeing up some space for a few. thumbs up
doctorvague
Looks great!
Henfield
Krisp1 - That panel looks great!!

My MU Equinoxe Phaser is one of my favorite modules, is extremely well built, and looks great!

An ADSR in MU with looping capabilities and VCA built-in sounds like another winner as well!

Porting over some of the Oakley Filter Modules into 1U MU format would be great as well. STG seems to be the only manufacturer making MU format filters in a 1U design, we need more!
sduck
synthetic wrote:
Yeah, MOTM appears to be a dead format. :(


It's not dead, it just smells funny.

No, not dead, but maybe almost so comparatively speaking sales-wise. The format has two big problems - 1. it's the perfect format for DIY-ers, like myself, who have little or no need to buy pre-made modules and 2. there's been very little cool new stuff from the main player(s) in a long time. These two factors are probably interconnected.

Anyway, there're a lot of motm systems out there, but whether or not that number continues to grow - probably not.
JohnLRice
synthetic wrote:
Yeah, MOTM appears to be a dead format. :(


eek!

f u

razz

Mr. Green

MOTM FTFW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! screaming goo yo SlayerBadger! hyper hihi 8_) applause It's peanut butter jelly time!
wyrtti
Does the new Looping VCA/ADSR work with the existing CV-ADSR board? Ie. could one already make a looping CV-ADSR/VCA, or does that need some changes in the CV board?

CV of A and D while looping... hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper woah
bsmith
sduck wrote:

It's not dead, it just smells funny.


Roxy & Elsewhere
synthetic
Hey I like MOTM format too. But how many modules released in that format in the last three years, compared to MU, compared to Euro? I know Paul has new stuff 'right around the corner...' I know my next cabinet will be MU.
jfm3
Jeff loves to pipe up and complain about MOTM as much as possible.

Sorry you're so bitter Jeff. Must be rough.
JohnLRice
synthetic wrote:
Hey I like MOTM format too. But how many modules released in that format in the last three years, compared to MU, compared to Euro?


How many kinds of new apples have been created in the last three years compared to candybars? Apples are dead! My next purchase is going to be a candy bar! razz lol
synthetic
Shit, I'm sorry fanboiz. waah
JohnLRice
synthetic wrote:
Shit, I'm sorry fanboiz. waah


sokay, sweet synthetic, we still luvs ya! Hug Lotsa Love Dinner at the Y

Maybe you are just too caught up in the fast paced world of fierce corporate competition? hihi ("crap, Yamaha, Zoom and Marantz each came out with 4 new models of flash recorders this year! We had better come out with 5!" screaming goo yo 8_) )

Out of curiousity I started trying to compile a list of all the new MOTM format modules released in the last three years but . . . I have more important things to be doing today meh The MSN Smack! but while Synth Tech has only had one or two, Modcan has had 9. w00t Also there were a couple from STG and Cyndustries. I know there are a few I'm forgetting! And then getting into DIY land there were quite a few from Oakley and other designers etc. (for the new folks that aren't aware, check http://www.bridechamber.com/bridechamber.com/Synth_Modules.html )

Of course as you know, while I love the MOTM format I also love the MU format. I think part of the reason MU has taken of in recent years is because there was more of a void until recently. Until about 6 years ago Synthesizers.com was the only game in town, right? The COTK and Moon came on the scene about 5 or 6 years ago, only 2 or 3 years ago Mos-Lab and STG got going and within the last year (I think) MegaOhm and Grove Audio have sprung up.
Synthbuilder
wyrtti wrote:
Does the new Looping VCA/ADSR work with the existing CV-ADSR board? Ie. could one already make a looping CV-ADSR/VCA, or does that need some changes in the CV board?


The existing four pot board - that's the one that adds the CV inputs and is fitted to the left hand side of the 2U VC-ADSR module - is completely compatible with the new VC-ADSR PCB.

You could rip the old VC-ADSR board out and replace it with the new issue and add the switch. Which is what I've done on my silver panelled module. However, the pots are smaller on the new board so you have to be careful with fitting a new board to an older panel to make sure the pots sit in the correct place.

Just to recap - the 2U VC-ADSR module is made from two PCBs, the four pot and the VC-ADSR. It is the VC-ADSR PCB - the more complex of the two PCBs - that has been upgraded.

Tony
wyrtti
Thank you, Tony! This is wonderful news. SlayerBadger!
Luka
tony im keen on building this w/ the vc pcb
does it have a lot of normalisation?
Synthbuilder
Luka wrote:
does it have a lot of normalisation?


I'm not sure I understand the question. Do you mean to build it with banana sockets? In that case the only normalised connections to the jack sockets is ground which you could ignore in a banana version. There's also the gate input from the optional Oakley Buss to the gate socket, and a +5V reference for the VCA IN socket. Both of which you could ignore without any real loss of functionality.

To make the full 2U VC-ADSR you need both Four pot and VC-ADSR PCBs. There are two four way 0.1" interconnects that join the two boards together. The CVs that control the ADS & R parameters are added together with the ordinary ADS & R pot values.

Tony
Luka
yup you hit the nail on the head

i have a panel design ready to go for a dual envylope (loopable vc-adsr) and i was wondering if i used your pcbs instead that i would need to add any extra switches where you have normalisation set up in your jack switches

thanks for info
Noiseconformist
Synthbuilder wrote:

More information:

http://www.oakleysound.com/adsr.htm
Tony


nice one (as I could see in Cambridge)

But I just realised that I'll gonna have a hard time mounting my special switch on it. No more space! hmmm.....

Michael.
JohnLRice
Synthbuilder wrote:
More information:
http://www.oakleysound.com/adsr.htm


From page 6:
"The older style ceramic low-K capacitors are strange flat plates made from pot."

hmmm.....

Rasta-nana


And here is a minor typo on page 15:
"16mm Alpha pots are pretty touch little chaps" eek!
russma
Ha! I also noticed that line about pot too.

I subsequently ate several of those caps, but didn't get a buzz at all.

sad banana
Synthbuilder
JohnLRice wrote:


"The older style ceramic low-K capacitors are strange flat plates made from pot."

hmmm.....

Rasta-nana

And here is a minor typo on page 15:
"16mm Alpha pots are pretty touch little chaps" eek!


You had me searching there... this is in my generic project Builder's isn't Guide isn't it? I'll get the 'touch' bit sorted shortly. All considered one typo in any document that I've written is probably a record low. I'm sure they'll be more hiding in there somewhere.

idiotboy wrote:

I subsequently ate several of those caps, but didn't get a buzz at all.


You have to smoke them not eat them... Rasta-nana hihi

But pot is clay in this case...

Tony
SepticUnderground
idiotboy wrote:
Ha! I also noticed that line about pot too.

I subsequently ate several of those caps, but didn't get a buzz at all.

sad banana


whahaha grin
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