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Fitting Modcan A series into a 19" rack (I know, I know
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Author Fitting Modcan A series into a 19" rack (I know, I know
thunderheart530
So about that portable Modcan A setup that no one seems to have figured out. I refuse to let a couple sets of 6u-ish size rack ears hold me back... because thats all you would really need...right?

http://www.audiopile.net/R12UE-10 for the case

http://www.tiptopaudio.com/zrails.php - for the rails

These rails use 3mm threads and Modcan screws are 6/32 (which is around 3.5mm?) so using slightly longer 3mm screws with washers should not be an issue to my knowledge.

Now the part im stuck on is ordering rack years for the rails. Couldn't I use 1u rack ears like this

https://www.amazon.com/Diablo-Cable-Rackmount-Catalyst-STK-RACKMOUNT-1 RU/dp/B005RJT208/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520817739&sr=8-1&keywords=1u+ rack+ears

and connect the rails to them using M4 screws with nuts?

I'm betting that the distance between the bottom and the top rows would not be perfect but maybe I could get it close enough? I have heard of people placing their Modcan A into Synthesizers.com racks but the holes dont line up so you would have to drill your own.

I've previously been helped with getting the proper power and adapter boards but this is the last thing on the list. I would like to make this portable if possible but if I AM ABSOLUTELY FORCED TO GET A COOL WOODEN CASE OR BEG FOR 6 PACKS THEN I WILL.

Thanks!
JohnLRice
A worthy project! thumbs up

For the rails consider using MakerBeam XL rails and T-Nuts (t-nut come in sizes from M3 to M6)
https://www.amazon.com/MakerBeam-XL-anodized-500x15x15mm-103194/dp/B06 XHQMM61/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HJSGUIQ/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?pd_rd_i=B01H JSGUIQ



I haven't used the XL sized MakerBeam stuff, only the standard sized, for a eurorack project case, which you might also consider but the t-nuts only come in M3 size as far as I know. I was originally turned onto standard sized MakerBeam by the excellent wiggler Verschroben in this thread where he successfully made a MU case with it! thumbs up
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=163844

The ears you posted might work well but . . .consider removing the rack rails completely and replacing it with some 2" wide flat aluminum stock that you can bolt your rails too? You might even gain a module width by doing so! w00t
thunderheart530
woah woah woah woah That is the thread to be on... Yes you probably would be able to squeeze 8 instead of 7 into it!

Thanks John
thunderheart530
These seem like they would work well as corner brackets.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0714FP9LB/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1&pd_rd_ i=B0714FP9LB&pd_rd_wg=NAKZ1&pd_rd_r=CESMX128JQEZN3N5A7HC&pd_rd_w=Bgcww

I wouldn't use the screws that it comes with. I would drill holes through the case and use a nut with a locking washer to fasten it to the case.

What do you guys think?
JohnLRice
thunderheart530 wrote:
These seem like they would work well as corner brackets.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0714FP9LB/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1&pd_rd_ i=B0714FP9LB&pd_rd_wg=NAKZ1&pd_rd_r=CESMX128JQEZN3N5A7HC&pd_rd_w=Bgcww

I wouldn't use the screws that it comes with. I would drill holes through the case and use a nut with a locking washer to fasten it to the case.

What do you guys think?
For ???? what? For Makerbeam standard size there are these that are designed for it, and they might work for the XL version as well:
https://www.amazon.com/MakerBeam-Corner-brackets-pack-12/dp/B00G2DNVFU  /

The ones you linked to might also work though? hmmm.....
JohnLRice
A couple notes on Makerbeam to be aware of:

1) the mounting screws you use to for your modules need to be the right length with little variation since there is no where for any excess length to travel.

2) Try to buy all of your parts from the same source at the same time and buy more than you'll need. This may have been a one time issue I ran into but I initially bought a bunch of Makerbeam parts for a project that I decided not to do, and then over a year later I decided to use it for a different project but needed more parts so I ordered some more. Unfortunately specs or tolerances had slightly changed so the old t-nuts didn't slide freely in the new beams (but could be forced) and the new drop in bolts had heads to small so they didn't lock into the old beams. angry very frustrating
thunderheart530
I brought up the other ones because they were slightly larger but not too large to interfere with anything and you got more of them for a cheaper price (through prime meh ).

However, I agree with you on buying more then I need from the same source and will be ordering all of the Makerbeam stuff.
JohnLRice
thunderheart530 wrote:
I brought up the other ones because they were slightly larger but not too large to interfere with anything and you got more of them for a cheaper price (through prime meh ).
The one thing to consider, which might not apply to how you are going to use the stuff, is that the two holes in the Makerbeam L and T etc brackets is that the two holes are spaced to line up correctly with additional beams so you can stack two beams on top of each other or attach perpendicularly etc.

Here's my somewhat funky Makerbeam effort that holds eurrorack modules in the lid of my briefcase:


NOTE: you can kind of see in the above picture that trying to get the maximum width out of a road case can be a little problematic because of the rivets that protrude into the case. Take a close look at how the original case manufacturer dealt with it (often a thin sheet of dense foam is used) and how the rivets might interfere with your plans before you start measuring and cutting your parts!

And in looking for my picture I was reminded of this fine wiggler that made a 5U case with Makerbeam XL:
bernd.wender wrote:
My new "experimenter case" (yet to be filled). I wanted a small one-row case that is somewhat portable to be used for testing new builds. It is made of makerbeams (XL) and plexi glass.
thunderheart530
That is excellent information. I was planning on the need to build around a few obstacles with the case. I wont be able to address much until I have everything in front of me though!

I have to pay off a few modules before I go through with ordering all the parts Dead Banana

Did you order your Makerbeam parts directly from them John?
JohnLRice
thunderheart530 wrote:
Did you order your Makerbeam parts directly from them John?
I bought all my parts from Amazon.com, if I'm remembering correctly.
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