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Google’s NSynth Super
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col
Looks quite interesting and not so difficult to build, especially if SDIY PCB retailers are allowed to sell kits :-)

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/3/13/17114760/google-nsyn th-super-ai-touchscreen-synth

https://github.com/googlecreativelab/open-nsynth-super
Koryo
wow, you beat me to it.

I'm makin' this ASAP. Anyone else? The Git looks like its a dumbed down UI version. Haven't read everything yet, basically TL;DR, is it possible to DIY the touch screen version?




https://nsynthsuper.withgoogle.com/
zackH
Looks sweet, I wonder if pusherman can do a run of the boards
sduck
My only concern is that it seems to be only playing the same minor triad throughout the whole video. Oh wait, there's another video, let's see if it makes other notes...
flts
Koryo wrote:
I'm makin' this ASAP. Anyone else? The Git looks like its a dumbed down UI version. Haven't read everything yet, basically TL;DR, is it possible to DIY the touch screen version?


I'd suppose the touch screen prototype is running on same hardware and (roughly) the same codebase but using some off-the-shelf touchscreen. They don't give any instructions on Github or blog posts to make that version.

It isn't that "dumbed down" in the sense that you appear to get the same controls, just in a bit different and less flashy format - eg. there's a small OLED for displaying the synth state, and bunch of pots and encoders for setting the parameters aside the touch field.

sduck wrote:
My only concern is that it seems to be only playing the same minor triad throughout the whole video. Oh wait, there's another video, let's see if it makes other notes...


I didn't watch the videos because no audio where I'm at now, but the posts say it's MIDI controllable, so I assume the synthesis parameters are controlled with the UI and whatever notes it plays is dependent on whatever one wants to play.
vicpop
According to their guide, doing the offline processing requires a bit of time: https://github.com/googlecreativelab/open-nsynth-super/tree/master/aud io

I hope a lot of people build these and share results. I'm excited to see where this kind of synthesis goes
flts
Yeah, the software comes built-in with the model(s) they consider the best themselves though - so you can just install it on the Raspberry Pi and get playing without having to train the model from the start yourself.

But in general, yeah, training complex neural network models (which I assume the audio generation step is at least partially doing) takes time, and it's interesting to see whether many people come up with their own cool models.
autodafe
I have seen it yesterday and thought "wow"

looks quite difficutl to build, thank god it's all open source, I hope some retailer crates some PCB kit soon...
mangros
Someone's put it on OSH Park already:

https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/Cho0MtsN
fuzzyboy
I'm very excited to put my soldering, tinkering and software skills together for some music making :-)

Just discovered PCBs available here
https://www.tindie.com/products/squarofumi/nsynth-super-pcb-googles-ml -synthesizer/
Kroaton
I've already posted this but I'll echo it here as well: the Terminal Tedium module is perfectly suited for running this.
You can even add an external touchscreen module if you'd like and there are no SMT parts to solder.
Not to mention the fact that you can modulate the crossfades between instrument samples.

All it'd take is a few modifications of the openFrameworks app that Nsynth Super provides.
flts
Kroaton wrote:
I've already posted this but I'll echo it here as well: the Terminal Tedium module is perfectly suited for running this.
You can even add an external touchscreen module if you'd like and there are no SMT parts to solder.


Most probably understood you wrong, but Terminal Tedium is pretty much all SMT so you need to solder a bunch of those to get it built.

But yeah! It's all open source and obviously works on Raspberry Pi, so I suppose if / when someone who's interested and knowledgeable enough does some patches to the application, it'd run nicely on TT as well.
Kroaton
For some reason I wrote down SMT in place of MLP (which are a bitch to solder) but after checking the BOM it doesn't have any of those or other hard parts to solder other than the DAC and the STM, so disregard what I said about all of this smile

I was tired but nonetheless, thank you for the correction, flts.
flts
Yep, it's mainly SOICs and 0805 (I think?) passives, plus the TSSOP DAC, so no nasty "hidden leg" parts involved!
mangros
Wonder if it can deal with sustained sounds? All the demos are percussive, and the notes on processing your own audio specify one-shot samples, 4 sec max.

(Not that I'll be investing in the suggested rig with 8 GPUs, 8-core CPU and 128GB, or running such a thing at full whack for a week to generate the data...)

There's a website demo where you can play with two sound nodes and blend between them. The results are a bit 'novelty/comical' for my taste: https://experiments.withgoogle.com/ai/sound-maker/view/
autodafe
PCB bought. Let's see what I come up with...
meska
Willzyx
Just a heads up, ponoko offers a free design 10 days after you sign up. Good way to get a free case if you live stateside.
auxren
I am taking orders for assembled PCBs for this project. For $42, you get just the PCB with all the surface mount parts already soldered on by machine. The rest is up to you. Hopefully this makes it more accessible to people since no surface mount soldering will be required.

The order form is on my website: www.auxren.com
NS4W
auxren wrote:
I am taking orders for assembled PCBs for this project. For $42, you get just the PCB with all the surface mount parts already soldered on by machine. The rest is up to you. Hopefully this makes it more accessible to people since no surface mount soldering will be required.

The order form is on my website: www.auxren.com


Thanks for doing this! Is this a version designed for the touchscreen or not?
auxren
NS4W wrote:
auxren wrote:
I am taking orders for assembled PCBs for this project. For $42, you get just the PCB with all the surface mount parts already soldered on by machine. The rest is up to you. Hopefully this makes it more accessible to people since no surface mount soldering will be required.

The order form is on my website: www.auxren.com


Thanks for doing this! Is this a version designed for the touchscreen or not?


It's the open source version which doesn't have the big screen. Only the small OLED screen similar to the O_C.

I can't find any info for the big screen one.
mOBiTh
Hey guys

My DIY PCB has arrived and I managed to source everything except the audio socket and pi stuff from digikey.

Would upload the bom but can't get attach file to work hmmm.....
Altitude909
perfect fit: http://www.hammondmfg.com/pdf/1455T1601.pdf

None of that laser cut plexi crap
bonjourmyfriends
Altitude909 wrote:
perfect fit: http://www.hammondmfg.com/pdf/1455T1601.pdf

None of that laser cut plexi crap


What's the best way to cut a big square in this type of metal enclosure?
Altitude909
bonjourmyfriends wrote:
Altitude909 wrote:
perfect fit: http://www.hammondmfg.com/pdf/1455T1601.pdf

None of that laser cut plexi crap


What's the best way to cut a big square in this type of metal enclosure?


Have a CNC shop do it
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