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flx
Hey, I thought I'd make a thread for Klangbau Köln discussion, because so far it has been scattered all over various other threads, mostly about the Twin Peak Filter, and it's difficult to find.

cool What's Klangbau Köln?
It's a modular synth manufacturer from Cologne, Germany:
https://xn--klangbaukln-zfb.de/
http: //klangbauköln.de


screaming goo yo What's the deal?
The way I see it, the modules and their application all follow a certain chaotic (not random!) rhythm and sound generation concept, with inspiration from analog computing, Rob Hordijk, probably a little bit of Serge and more. It's less about making a typical musical pop song and more about soundscape exploration, although Klangbau's oscillators generally do track 1V/Oct nicely. The modules often feature a little something "special", like clever normalisation (e.g. amplitude-to-pitch tracking on the Twin Peak filter and resonator) or an added feature on a seemingly simple and standard module (like the S&H with feedback).


Where can I get the modules?
Write Klangbau an email for the current price list and shipping options:
https://xn--klangbaukln-zfb.de/kontakt-adresse-telefon-email-klangbauk oeln-koeln/


w00t What's my connection to Klangbau?
I live in the same city and know Klangbau for a couple of years now. I first bought the Tube VCA module, picked it up and came back for more and more:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J6yS-kMc9M&index=4&list=PLa9Em_H8Xs_Z EiHWQDeCVFXNUhJzbz29Q


hmmm..... Tell me about some of the modules!

The Tube VCA was one of the first modules and rather popular, as it was relatively small but used a real tube to add some nice crunch to your sounds.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKWdkli4UBw&t=0s&index=2&list=PLa9Em_H 8Xs_ZEiHWQDeCVFXNUhJzbz29Q


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLX_WnM5Hac


Then there is Klangbau's version of Rob Hordijk's Twin Peak VCF and the new version, the Twin Peak Resonator, letting you create those iconic filter ping and vowel sounds!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTKAm0zr8IA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD5hqVF6MDA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bImXyKv18A&t=0s&index=7&list=PLa9Em_H 8Xs_ZEiHWQDeCVFXNUhJzbz29Q


A small but beautiful module is the Logistic Equation, a chaotic CV sequencer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMozPzJxBxk&t=324s&index=3&list=PLa9Em _H8Xs_ZEiHWQDeCVFXNUhJzbz29Q


For a brief period of time, there was also a Klangbau Benjolin.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFfQTWMHPeU&t=0s&index=17&list=PLa9Em_ H8Xs_ZEiHWQDeCVFXNUhJzbz29Q


Other modules in the lineup are a new Thru-Zero VCO, the XR-VCO which tracks 1V/oct over 7 octaves, a Wavefolder with two VCAs on board, a VCF with feedback and VC resonance, etc.



Rockin' Banana! Let's hear those things in action!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UsjC1n75Jo&t=199s&index=8&list=PLa9Em _H8Xs_ZEiHWQDeCVFXNUhJzbz29Q


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB0HoEg7Kdw&list=PLa9Em_H8Xs_ZEiHWQDeC VFXNUhJzbz29Q&index=1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUYXZy_HCZU&index=1&list=PLa9Em_H8Xs_Z EiHWQDeCVFXNUhJzbz29Q


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z5O-RDN1yM&t=0s&index=82&list=PL5AAC6 1D0DF9D715D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtyzAjfU09A&list=PLa9Em_H8Xs_ZEiHWQDeC VFXNUhJzbz29Q&index=28


Miley Cyrus More media:
Instagram feeds for the #klangbauköln and #klangbaukoln tags:
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/klangbauk%C3%B6ln/
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/klangbaukoln/

ModularGrid:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/modules/browser?SearchName=&SearchVendor =290


Guinness ftw! Alright, let's talk! Who else has some Klangbau in their racks?
flx
Some quotes from other threads:


About the Logistic Equation:
101010oxo wrote:

I use and quite like the combo "Logistische Gleichung" and a trigger delay. There was a good article (in German) in "Synthesizer Magazin" no. 52 that can be bought (as pdf) here: http://synmag.1a-shops.eu/

klangbauer wrote:
LogGleichung or LogEquation is an algorythm borrowed from Biolocy. It describes up and downs of two populations. See diagram from flx, it is called "Feigenbaum diagramm".
It has a limit and unpredictable phases. The random part we use for our module. Becaus it is chaotic it produces selfsimilar results. I call it melodies, because it is not radically random.

At the moment we are developing a real analog version, with more live inside. Because it is a module that calculates, it is an "Analog Computer" device with a real S/H for feeback.

See Doepfer´s page and look at patch samples. You can try to patch it in your system also, luck.

best klangbaukoeln

101010oxo wrote:

http://www.doepfer.de/a100_man/a100_patch.htm

Look for "Chaos Patch"

Source: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137656&highlight=


About the Twin Peak VCF:
timoka wrote:
here is a demonstration of the wonderful twin peak filter by klangbauköln/rob hordjik as pinged filter:

nothing too musical, but it shows that you can get some great pings out of this filter! so thank you klangbauköln for this perfect modul!

[s]http://soundcloud.com/uzala/twin-peak-filter[/s]

timoka wrote:
here is another demo, more varying, less musical:

[s]http://soundcloud.com/uzala/twin-peak-filter-various[/s]

timoka wrote:
received a second twin peak filter from klangbau köln. these are beasts!
quad peak rhythm with some tube distortion and a looped bit from clouds as "shaker":

[s]http://soundcloud.com/uzala/quadpeak[/s]

brandonlogic wrote:
i did a little Epoch Twin Peak vs the Klangbau Twin Peak filter sound comparison.

From 0 to 3:45 i'm filtering a square wave from the Sputnik Oscillator through the Klangbau then through the Epoch. from 3:45 to 8:40 i'm using only triggers from Mutable Instruments Grids into the audio inputs of the filters (and multing to mod a and b of the Epoch). Here, the Epoch is panned hard left and the Klangbau hard right. from 8:40 untill the end, it's back to the sputnik square and some random wiggling of both filters at onece, still panned hard left and right.

Recording is completely dry, no effects or eq. In this demo, i'm using animodule line amp as a buffered mult to split the signal going into the audio input of the epoch to also go into the peak a and peak b mod inputs of the Epoch. This is because this is similar to how the Klangbau's Tr-F1 adn Tr-F2 controls are internally wired. I am using channel two of the line amp to boost the output of the epoch because it tends to output below standard euro modular level. line amp helps boot it normal euro levels. The Epoch requires more patching for this comparison but it also has more cv inputs for modulation and is a little more flexible under cv control and is easier to fine tune with it's knobs compared to the Klangbau's joystick, which make it hard to dial in two specific filter frequencies to track with other oscillators and v/oct, although the joystick is nice for improv and performance . you might notice that the Klangbau sometimes has a little clipping or distortion. from my experience this is part of the character of the the Klangbau version, which can sound nice! it can be controlled to some extent with the input level knob. The Klangbau will consistently self resonate with the resonance all the way up, so it is capable of longer sustaining rings . the Epoch does not self resonate like this without modulation/pings.


Source: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=126024&highlight=

About the Twin Peak Resonator:
nectarios wrote:
The Klangbau Twin Peak Resonator has a hot output and sweet saturation close to full CW input.

brandonlogic wrote:

keep in mind the input attenuation knob on the klangbau in that video is only at 1 or 2:00. when its all the way up, it can definitely become a lot more gritty and overdriven. i prefer the klangbau, to me its bolder, thicker sounding and has stronger resonance.
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watch/listen to more demos. the way it sounds should be the most important factor, more so that cost and panel layout, imo.

i always like to share this set of klangbau twin peak demos/tracks because these are what sold it for me originally and uzala is amazing.!
https://soundcloud.com/uzala/sets/klangbau-k-ln-twin-peak-filter

Source: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=189330&highlight=


About the XR-VCO:
somonochrome wrote:

it is very loud indeed but really nice sounding. the sine is not sterile clean but sounded great in any FM context, the pulse with pwm is great too.
the waveshaper was pretty similar to the STOs but i actually liked the klangbau better!

Source: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=167779&highlight=
visible cow
I just placed an order for two röhren VCAs yesterday.

I love the raw look of his modules.
southphillysynths
I've had the joystick twinpeak for a weeks now. It sounds absolutely incredible and liquid. One of the best sounds modules I've ever owned for sure!

Looking forward to future designs from him!
Dcramer
Great explanation on the LE.
Some years ago I managed to get the Doepfer patch example up and running.
It was fascinating as it just seemed to jump into life once I got all the settings within proper range. thumbs up
flx
Here's another weird all-Klangbau module jam, plus Kosmonaut Delay and AUFX:Space Reverb nanners


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtyzAjfU09A&list=PLa9Em_H8Xs_ZEiHWQDeC VFXNUhJzbz29Q&index=28


southphillysynths wrote:

Looking forward to future designs from him!

I really need to check out the new Thru-Zero VCO. I already got a demonstration and it might work really well together with the nicely FM-able XR-VCO.


visible cow wrote:
I just placed an order for two röhren VCAs yesterday.
I love the raw look of his modules.

The Tube VCA is really nice. Post some links to what you do with it if you put some sounds/music online then cool
nectarios
Twin Peaks Resonator as sound source (I did that "Twin Peak Resonator Band Pass" video as well).



brandonlogic
The twin peak resonator and twin peak filter might be my favorite eurorack modules. I can say with more confidence that I will never sell them than any other module. They sound just too good and unique. They have become part of my sound. Lucky they are built like fucking tanks too SlayerBadger!
flx
Dcramer wrote:
Great explanation on the LE.
Some years ago I managed to get the Doepfer patch example up and running.
It was fascinating as it just seemed to jump into life once I got all the settings within proper range. thumbs up

Thanks! I'd love to try out the Dopefer patch. As you wrote, it's probably quite rewarding. It's interesting how musical the results of the Logistic Equation are. At first sight I thought it would just be some kind of S&H d'oh!
flx
Some more jamming on the all-Klangbau system.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUYXZy_HCZU&index=1&list=PLa9Em_H8Xs_Z EiHWQDeCVFXNUhJzbz29Q
NathansModular
Everything I have heard has been dreamy Agony!
nectarios
Besides the brilliant sounds, just want to say that the Twin Peak Resonator is the best built module in my system. Its built like a tank and it oozes quality.
suthnear
Is the twin peak resonator the same filter core as the twin peak filter? Aside from the controls, are there any other differences?
suthnear
And wow those uzala rhythm demos are good...
ookrsia
suthnear wrote:
Is the twin peak resonator the same filter core as the twin peak filter? Aside from the controls, are there any other differences?


I've got the newer Resonator and there are a few differences.

-Instead of the joystick there are two separate knobs for frequency of each filter.
-There is a knob to make filter 2 FM modulate filter 1.
-And a knob to go from bandpass to low pass. Only filter 1 works in lowpass mode.

The addition of FM at least adds a lot of possibilities. I only wish there was CV control for this. This is one of those knobs that you end up playing a lot with while playing.
flx
EDIT: want he said /\/\/\
suthnear
Thanks for that. Guess I want the resonator
brandonlogic
ookrsia wrote:
suthnear wrote:
Is the twin peak resonator the same filter core as the twin peak filter? Aside from the controls, are there any other differences?


I've got the newer Resonator and there are a few differences.

-Instead of the joystick there are two separate knobs for frequency of each filter.
-There is a knob to make filter 2 FM modulate filter 1.
-And a knob to go from bandpass to low pass. Only filter 1 works in lowpass mode.

The addition of FM at least adds a lot of possibilities. I only wish there was CV control for this. This is one of those knobs that you end up playing a lot with while playing.


i have both to, a couple other differences, at least in mine:

The Joystick version's resonance is a little stronger, self resonate stronger/more intense.

The joystick version is also capable of a little more aggressive overdrive/saturation imo. Klangbau even stated that in the resonator has some circuitry changes that cleans up the overdrive that the joystick one has.

so, to me, they are different enough to justify having/keeping both!


I tend to use the joystick one more for self ping/percussion sounds more and the resonator one for actual filtering of vcos
DeltaTucanae
brandonlogic wrote:

I tend to use the joystick one more for self ping/percussion sounds more and the resonator one for actual filtering of vcos


Thanks for this. Have been trying to decide which would be better for pinging/percussion.
timoka
i have two joystick versions and they sound quite different, first the faceplate is mirrored so they look really cool next to each other, one has a dedicated 1v/oct input however it doesn't track that well. one goes into self oscillation the other doesn't, one can overdrive the input pretty hard the other can not. both together are a dreamteam and i really like that they have different flavours, just like lpg, every unit is a bit different! the only problem i have is that they don't fit in my travel case, which is a shame and i wish there's a possibility to hack them into a shallower case...
timoka
[s]http://soundcloud.com/marionettelabel/b1-kilchhofer-hedha[/s]

this track uses both twin peak versions i have.
ookrsia
Interesting to hear that there are such differences between two same modules.

Someone mentioned that they like to use the non-joystick Resonator to filter VCO's, but I find mine quite tricky in those kinds of workcases – sometimes a millimeter makes a huge difference.

My Resonator is an awesome sound source (pings, etc) though! It has an impressively large range of possible sounds.
ookrsia
I wish there was more information available (demos basically) of some of the Klangbau modules.

There's stuff like the Thru Zero VCO, the XR VCO, the Wavefolder which do have their own webpage, but there's only a pic and a couple lines of text.
flx
ookrsia wrote:
I wish there was more information available (demos basically) of some of the Klangbau modules.

There's stuff like the Thru Zero VCO, the XR VCO, the Wavefolder which do have their own webpage, but there's only a pic and a couple lines of text.

That's why I made this thread. Hopefully we can pool some information here smile I bought an XR-VCO a few years ago (the big version) and I'll see if I can do a demo. The TZ VCO is brand new and I haven't played with it yet. I did get a demonstration though and it seems to do FM really well with the XR.
sendepause
Been eyeballing the Twin Peak filter for a long long time. Only reason why haven't ordered one is because it's 60mm deep. Impossible to fit in a travel case.

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